Hindsight
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You won't be able to provide any evidence for your claim on Mr Farage's backtracking, because there is none. He was not part of that campaign, and never claimed that there would be £350m weekly for the NHS.
The bus showed two separate statements, the minds of others conflated them, very probably as was intended. But - and this is the point in this discussion - neither an explicit nor an implicit promise was made, unlike Mr Corbyn and the student fees.
Mr Corbyn is not very bright - hence his on the record comments in this matter - but you'd be right in attributing Machiavellian traits to John McDonnel, he is pulling the strings across the Labour movement at the moment, both within the party and within Momentum (which is probably the more important of the two in electoral terms).
You have two students and say that there is little point in mentioning their own country's recent history to them... ; next you'll be telling me they will / have studied politics or history... and yet students generally* will often spout on about fascism and allude to the dictatorships of the middle 20th Century when referring to some modern politicians, and many of them couldn't even spell 'fascist'.
*not having a dig at your two unless it is definitely applicable to them
No 'dig' taken - I know what you mean and in general concur with the observation! And your fears are even more founded as younger one has just completed A level Politics and History. Older one completed a Sports Science degree - so aa wishy washy degree I suspect for many on here! But he does bowl a rather fine leg spin ball. And concur Mr McDonnel is intriguing.