Lime grows grass

[xtedbear]

Has anyone got any thoughts / experiences on spreading gypsom for calcium benefits, or bedding cattle with gypsom paper and the spreading the dung?

 

[Macsky]

just done a quick google , banff to syke is 175 miles , lime can be got here £19 ton ex quarry (last years prices) if you can organise transport may be worth a shout , some one on here a few years back was getting back loads of lime to central perthshire from up here for the mid 20s , the bulkers were tipping at some of the distillaries .

There is calcium lime in torlundy, fortwilliam, but it’s not ground very well, there is Dufftown as well, which is better but still not great, I had a few loads of that in a couple of years ago working out at about £30/t as the haulier was taking mag lime from here in Skye (torrin) through (Leiths run torrin, torlundy and Dufftown).
Which quarry is it in Banff? What like is the lime? Haulage is the killer, you mention Skye and it’s as if you’ve added a thousand miles to the quote.

 

[quavers]

There is calcium lime in torlundy, fortwilliam, but it’s not ground very well, there is Dufftown as well, which is better but still not great, I had a few loads of that in a couple of years ago working out at about £30/t as the haulier was taking mag lime from here in Skye (torrin) through (Leiths run torrin, torlundy and Dufftown).
Which quarry is it in Banff? What like is the lime? Haulage is the killer, you mention Skye and it’s as if you’ve added a thousand miles to the quote.

https://www.breedongroup.com/location-finder/boyne-bay the dufftown lime was thought to be better but the banff outfit have put in new screeds in are doing a better product . the duffton lime was about £25 ex quarry last year, and £29 for a 45 mile journey

 

[Macsky]

https://www.breedongroup.com/location-finder/boyne-bay the dufftown lime was thought to be better but the banff outfit have put in new screeds in are doing a better product . the duffton lime was about £25 ex quarry last year, and £29 for a 45 mile journey

I take it that it’s calcium lime in Banff too? I’ll maybe give them a ring for a spec sheet.

 

[quavers]

calcium ,

 

[Lemon curd]

Who"s your contractor please? EBW? Or which quarry is it out of? thanks.

Webster, skipton, north yorkshire

 

[Lemon curd]

Has anyone got any thoughts / experiences on spreading gypsom for calcium benefits, or bedding cattle with gypsom paper and the spreading the dung?

Gypsum is calcium sulphate so in a heavy clay high mag soil has a soil conditioning effect of increasing the calcium level to improve the cal mag ratio. Does not improve soil pH as its carbonate that does that. Thats why dairy farmers bedding on sand are finding their pH is too high, as sand contains carbonate. Bedding with paper waste( not gypsum) will have a pH correction effect as it contains carbonate. I once tested some and it was 36% neutralising value. Be careful with gypsum as the acidity caused by the sulphur can kill your good soil bacteria. Plasterboard is calcium sulphate and you cant take it to landfill as they want lots of bacteria to breakdown all the debris, so why would you want to put that on your soil

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Be careful though.

I don’t know the full details but getting some of these gypsum products mixed in with manure can cause extremely dangerous gases to be produced. Not good at all if you have slats and underfloor slurry systems.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Whats the true story with sand . Has any tested the sand from Cardigan and its effectiveness

 

[Wazmos]

How long after applying lime would you Re test the soil? We did a block of land last September and I’m eager to see how much it’s lifted it? Some top dressed some ploughed.

 

[davidroberts30]

How long after applying lime would you Re test the soil? We did a block of land last September and I’m eager to see how much it’s lifted it? Some top dressed some ploughed.

At least 6 months

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Lime will work very quickly on a failing crop if it’s good quality, but to be sure retest after 6-12 months.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

How long after applying lime would you Re test the soil? We did a block of land last September and I’m eager to see how much it’s lifted it? Some top dressed some ploughed.

The ploughed land will work faster , testing top dressed land under 12 months at least and the test would be unrealiable, but would also depend on soil type and lime used

 

[Ffermer Bach]

How long after applying lime would you Re test the soil? We did a block of land last September and I’m eager to see how much it’s lifted it? Some top dressed some ploughed.

I am pretty sure Charlie Morgan told me 12 months

 

[Danllan]

Yes. It needed 2t per acre...

Anyone else noticed that fields always need 2t per acre...?

 

[Jerry]

Anyone else noticed that fields always need 2t per acre...?

LOL, true, but this did indeed need it from my own tests at the time.

Will re test in spring to adjust second dose as required.

 

[ollie989898]

Be careful though.

I don’t know the full details but getting some of these gypsum products mixed in with manure can cause extremely dangerous gases to be produced. Not good at all if you have slats and underfloor slurry systems.

Hydrogen sulphide. Fudging lethal.

 

[neilo]

How long after applying lime would you Re test the soil? We did a block of land last September and I’m eager to see how much it’s lifted it? Some top dressed some ploughed.

I would suggest about 12 months after the last test, so that it’s about the same time of year.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Is that better than slag?

Some test sites being sampled tommo , so feel free to sharpen your sword in readiness [emoji849]

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Anyone else noticed that fields always need 2t per acre...?

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