Lime spreading rates.

[Kevtherev]

Is that Ag slag product the same one you were selling last year derek or from different source?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Is that Ag slag product the same one you were selling last year derek or from different source?

Same . I want to see if it lifts the ph like they say . Will test some fields later in the year and see.
The limex lifted a field from 5.3 to 6.3 after 12 months

 

[Fake it ‘til you make it]

I wouldn't spend much on it then . polishing turds springs to mind .

You can’t polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter

 

[Kevtherev]

Was always advised by the old school lime spreader chaps to buy the best quality Buxton lime from Derbyshire.
Pretty sure they were spot on in their recommendations.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Depends on how much fert and slurry you put on it as well as rainfall, cropping etc.

Too many variable to tell just from soil analysis

7 years of rain slurry firtilizer and prilled granulated lime . I was growing barley on that before . P H 6.5
Its gone to having proper lime

 

[Derrick Hughes]

This

 

[Sid]

7 years of rain slurry firtilizer and prilled granulated lime . I was growing barley on that before . P H 6.5
Its gone to having proper lime

Cripes how did you let it get that low!

What got the pH from 5.0 to 6.5?

 

[bobajob]

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This is the stuff. Soil sampled every field this year so I'll do it again next year where we've used it.

Watch this space

I think you can test next year and it will have lifted your ph a little, but the point is it doesn’t last long and test it the year after and it will be going back down again quite quickly!
Not having a go, have used it in the past here on a bit of land where I couldn’t get the lime spreader into.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Cripes how did you let it get that low!

What got the pH from 5.0 to 6.5?

It was 6.5 when I grew wheat and barley on it . I let it out for 5 years , it was having mantainance dressing of granulated lime but never tested
Its had lime last autumn and some more this spring Cotswold lime , Some Ground Limstone Limex and Slag . Nit retested yet

 

[Sid]

It was 6.5 when I grew wheat and barley on it . I let it out for 5 years , it was having mantainance dressing of granulated lime but never tested
Its had lime last autumn and some more this spring Cotswold lime , Some Ground Limstone Limex and Slag . Nit retested yet

Hope you got tenants dilapidations!

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Hope you got tenants dilapidations!

I'm to blame, took my eye off the ball. But back in charge now
Lesson learnt , test your ground

 

[Sid]

I'm to blame, took my eye off the ball. But back in charge now

Perhaps they were putting on slag

 

[Kiwi Pete]

I’d get Welsh slag tested n all you catch scab off her .

I left mine at the bus stop

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Perhaps they were putting on slag [emoji850]

Two things I learnt that I should have known . Putting Slurry and Nitrogen on outside the main growing seasons will drag your PH down sharply. If your grass is not actively growing that is

 

[Kiwi Pete]

I'm to blame, took my eye off the ball. But back in charge now
Lesson learnt , test your ground

That is EXACTLY what I was meaning about different systems doing different things to pH.

Sad that yours went the wrong way.

Here we moved in and everything was 5.3-5.5 and it naturally came back up because I stopped trying to produce much, basically a rest from "production farming" and just graze stock on it, worm castings are pH 7.0 and by letting the worms have plenty to eat, they have done the job

But it (our system) isn't for everyone, infact it isn't for many.

 

[Hilly]

I left mine at the bus stop

School boy error that

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Two things I learnt that I should have known . Putting Slurry and Nitrogen on outside the main growing seasons will drag your PH down sharply. If your grass is not actively growing that is

Absolutely. Likewise leaving heaps of grass to rot down will do the same thing

 

[Hilly]

That is EXACTLY what I was meaning about different systems doing different things to pH.

Sad that yours went the wrong way.

Here we moved in and everything was 5.3-5.5 and it naturally came back up because I stopped trying to produce much, basically a rest from "production farming" and just graze stock on it, worm castings are pH 7.0 and by letting the worms have plenty to eat, they have done the job

But it (our system) isn't for everyone, infact it isn't for many.

Their is always another way to skin a cat .

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Their is always another way to skin a cat .

Yep killing the cat by drowing it in cream means you can't afford many cat-skin cloaks

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Absolutely. Likewise leaving heaps of grass to rot down will do the same thing

If nitrate is taken up by plants the net acidification per molecule of ammonium is halved compared to the scenario when nitrate is leached. This is due to the consumption of one H⁺ ion (or excretion of OH⁻) for each molecule of nitrate taken up – this is often observed as pH increases in the rhizosphere