Lime spreading rates.

[Whinfield Herefords]

If you raise your pH you may not be quite so deficient in phos & potash as you think .

The fields which are low are about 9 and 82 ppm according to the results will this take much to improve once the ph levels are fixed?

 

[Treg]

The fields which are low are about 9 and 82 ppm according to the results will this take much to improve once the ph levels are fixed?

I think you'll be surprised once your pH levels are correct .
Every soil is different & timing of soil test can make a difference.

 

[Whinfield Herefords]

I think you'll be surprised once your pH levels are correct .
Every soil is different & timing of soil test can make a difference.

Ok thanks, maybe I’ll lime now than test again next spring and correct if necessary.

 

[Lemon curd]

The fields which are low are about 9 and 82 ppm according to the results will this take much to improve once the ph levels are fixed?

That is very low . To put it in context, 1 index of P is 350 units and 1 index of K is 500 units. Maintaining p and k is hard enough but maintenance and buildup can cost a lot and take perhaps 10 years to rectify. Liming is a good start

 

[bobk]

Lime is a cheap and effective input now , don't tell the spreaders though .

 

[Cab-over Pete]

You don’t need to tell the spreaders, we already know.
So does everyone else. It’s always been a cheap input and is now better value than ever. Not that you would know it, I haven’t spread so little so far in a spring season this decade.

 

[Whinfield Herefords]

That is very low . To put it in context, 1 index of P is 350 units and 1 index of K is 500 units. Maintaining p and k is hard enough but maintenance and buildup can cost a lot and take perhaps 10 years to rectify. Liming is a good start

Do you think I should get some fibrophos straight on after liming but before first cut and then retest in spring?

 

[Cab-over Pete]

I think, as long as you have the land long term, it would be wise to start trying to build it up asap.

 

[bobk]

You don’t need to tell the spreaders, we already know.
So does everyone else. It’s always been a cheap input and is now better value than ever. Not that you would know it, I haven’t spread so little so far in a spring season this decade.

Why's that ?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

It hasn’t been limed for 30-35 years so ph’s are down around 5.3 - 5.5 and a couple of fields are phosphorus and potash deficient as well so I want to really get on top of it over next couple of years get the soil sorted and then maybe even a field or two reseeded and hopefully just keep it maintained from then on. Am I right in saying that I need to wait about 3 months after lime spreading before I can start putting fertiliser on to sort out the other defiencies?

No, we put lime and firtilzer in the seedbed , just don't use Urea

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Lime is a cheap and effective input now , don't tell the spreaders though .

Cost me £80 acre to put 2 Ton on

 

[solo]

Why's that ?

They’re all converting to prilled having seen the light

 

[bobk]

They’re all converting to prilled having seen the light

The windows here for spreading lime are so small now , here anyway

 

[solo]

700t limex arrived and was spread in the month before Christmas here. Two thirds done on growing crops. Must have been lucky.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

700t limex arrived and was spread in the month before Christmas here. Two thirds done on growing crops. Must have been lucky.

That's good stuff but we just to far to haul it

 

[solo]

That's good stuff but we just to far to haul it

Haulier from Hereford delivers as back loads from Newark.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Why's that ?

No idea. I would have thought that now more than any time it was important to get pH values right.

 

[Tsa115]

Sorry to bombard the thread . Looking for tipped calcium lime into sy23, west wales, has it jumped up in price? . Was paying around £25 £26 last year. Been quoted £37.50 delivered today. Or 24 collected.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Sorry to bombard the thread . Looking for tipped calcium lime into sy23, west wales, has it jumped up in price? . Was paying around £25 £26 last year. Been quoted £37.50 delivered today. Or 24 collected.

Collected from where? If it's from a quarry I would say it's £10 heavy , haulage rates are killing though , I only use Cotswold lime , but not had a haulage rate recently

 

[Lemon curd]

Do you think I should get some fibrophos straight on after liming but before first cut and then retest in spring?

Imo, do your liming. Pand k is soil food which is best put on at the back end as we are trying to build up the reserves in the soil. Guessing your grazing needs p , and cutting needs p+k. Its plant food you need to feed the grass for growth, ie nitrogen and sulphur. Dont bother testing for 3-4 years

Do you think I should get some fibrophos straight on after liming but before first cut and then retest in spring?