Lost in Norfolk

[Tim Howard]

I had an order for a 3.45mt Subsoiler earlier this year. It was needed for the potato planting season. No deposit was asked for. I did not get it made but I had a new 3mt hear which they collected with 2 sets of wearing parts. I have been told that they are having further parts made locally as they don't want me to supply in case I get corona virus. They are not paying for the parts supplied or the machine until the end of planting when they will ether keep it or pay a rent for it's use.
Is this how things are and is this fair? They will not let me have the machine back and not replying to my emails
I need like a hole in the head right now. What do I do.

 

[John]

Why was the machine not made for when they wanted it? Seems to me the deal was done. I am not having a go but what are they supposed to do without the machine you said you’d sell them. although if it was me I would be getting the wearing metal from you unless your miles away and paying for it.

 

[Tim Howard]

I did say at the time of ordering that I might not get it made in time but I would loan them one if not.
There was quite a delay between the Quotation and order.

 

[snarling bee]

Now you know how I felt when I was trying to get hold of you about a late delivery and you accused me of harassment. And you've still got my deposit.

 

[Tim Howard]

That needs putting right although I didn't have much say back then as I was under petticoat government but i'm back on my own now.
Cant seem to get a pm over at the minute.

 

[David.]

On the strength of your first post, the machine remains yours, so I expect you could take a Hiab and collect it if you felt strongly enough.
But then they probably wont pay anything, and will tell everyone who will listen that Tim Howard is a wrong'un.
If you have no reason to suspect they are dishonest, and believe that they will honour your verbal agreement, you probably ought to let it roll?
The only warning flag waving is that they are buying wearing metal elsewhere....

 

[Tim Howard]

At the moment I feel that I am subsidising there operation. If I had supplied there new machine would I have been payed. Why would they want to buy it when they have finished planting. I did agree with them hiring it and I asked them what they thought would be an acceptable price but have had no answer.

 

[mf7480]

You’ve been too soft already- go and get the machine back.

 

[fieldfarmer]

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At the moment I feel that I am subsidising there operation. If I had supplied there new machine would I have been payed. Why would they want to buy it when they have finished planting. I did agree with them hiring it and I asked them what they thought would be an acceptable price but have had no answer.

Is the new machine built yet? tell them you will deliver it want paying there and then and collect the loan machine, if you've lent them it till there's is built not much you can change now is there?

 

[nick...]

I’d go collect.first loss is allways the best in this case.
Nick...

 

[ollie989898]

Collect machine back and chalk it down to experience.

 

[Exfarmer]

They can say what they can like about Tim Howard, but I will stand up and vouch for him.
mind sometimes you have to go there and watch him make it
a fascinating experience!

 

[Tim Howard]

I think things are now being sorted thanks all.
I don't think it is anything to do with the company who I am supplying but I will keep you posted.
Is any one else fed up with everything being blamed on corona, what else can you expect. we've had foot and mouth and swine fever from abroad, dutch elm disease and Ash dye back now its our turn, Its too late to turn the clock back all we can do now is try and live threw it.

 

[Cowcorn]

I think things are now being sorted thanks all.
I don't think it is anything to do with the company who I am supplying but I will keep you posted.
Is any one else fed up with everything being blamed on corona, what else can you expect. we've had foot and mouth and swine fever from abroad, dutch elm disease and Ash dye back now its our turn, Its too late to turn the clock back all we can do now is try and live threw it.

Im glad youre getting sorted, nothing worse than having your leg lifted and not knowing whether it wil pan out or will it end up a very expensive demo
Best to get a wearing deposit before letting a loan machine out of the yard .

 

[Tim Howard]

Thanks I have probably over reacted but I have already lost one machine. I have always found farmers very fair and would class most as friends. I do not expect anyone to pay for a machine anymore without trying it first so I do leave myself open a bit.

 

[Robt]

Good result Tim,
Times are tough and some people need to learn respect ( dealers/manufactures and farmers) Trust is still in our indusrty but some do try your patience!

 

[chaffcutter]

Sorry couldn’t resist correcting that!