- Location
- West Suffolk
Bloody hell, how can they accidentally strangle a cat.
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Lynx escaped from Welsh wildlife park
- Thread starter GTB
- Start date
Bloody hell, how can they accidentally strangle a cat.
Incompetence
- Location
- Ceredigion, wales
They still have a few left apparently.Their other lynx is now dead too, a 'handling error'...
I believe there's more than one kept there.
Danllan
Member
- Location
- Sir Gar / Carms
- Location
- Welshpool Powys
Best get a spear handy...
holywell farmer
Member
- Location
- holywell, north wales
Looks like chicken wire
That Lion enclosure doesn't look much cop to me.
- Location
- Ceredigion, wales
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Many years ago I did some work with a wild life centre. The owner was mildly eccentric -- so we got on quite well! One day one of his similarly eccentric friends turned up with a male lion in the back of a Transit van with a roller shutter back door. Once the door was raised, the animal was contained by a second door of chain link. I have never encountered such a frightening stench before or since. The smell of that animal raised the hairs on the back of my neck!
Anyway, there was a dicussion about what a softy the lion was. One of the girls suggested offering him a Polo as a lot of animals like the taste of mint. The owner promptly opened a side door, went into the van, and offered the lion the mint. He was not very interested. So he next tried rubbing it on the lion's tongue. (The tongue of a big cat is like sandpaper). That didn't work either, so he laughingly balanced the Polo on the lion's canine tooth....
I don't like the smell of fresh blood -- nor lions -- so I left then so I can't tell you what happened next. Anyone who has read "The Man Eaters of Kumaon" (https://archive.org/stream/maneatersofkumao029903mbp/maneatersofkumao029903mbp_djvu.txt) or about the Tsavo Man-Eaters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsavo_Man-Eaters) would probably have done the same. Any animal that can rip the roof off a railway carriage to get a meal won't be too much bothered by chain link!
- Location
- Northumberland
I was wondering whether there was any chance that the killed sheep would be conclusively linked to the escaped lynx (eg by DNA testing) so I got in touch with Phil Stocker of the NSA. As an aside, when I was a student I had a placement in Phil’s office when he was at the Soil Association. This was during foot and mouth, 2001 and he stuck me as a bloody nice chap.
Phil said that the Welsh Gov Chief Vet said that, although DNA samples had been taken from the sheep, they’d been dead for three days by the time the samples were taken and there was nothing conclusive from them so there will be no firm evidence of a link. He went on to say
“I think the best we’ve got is that all sheep were killed by 2 or 4 puncture wounds in the throat - something that would be typical of a big cat and very unusual in dog attacks where there is pretty much always tearing. There may be one exception to this and that is something like a deer hound trained to bring deer down but even then I’m not certain you’d get the puncture wounds and suffocation with internal bleeding.
I am using this to suggest to Welsh Gov that they should be consulted over the Kielder release.”
So tantalisingly close to conclusive evidence but unfortunately no cigar.
Phil said that the Welsh Gov Chief Vet said that, although DNA samples had been taken from the sheep, they’d been dead for three days by the time the samples were taken and there was nothing conclusive from them so there will be no firm evidence of a link. He went on to say
“I think the best we’ve got is that all sheep were killed by 2 or 4 puncture wounds in the throat - something that would be typical of a big cat and very unusual in dog attacks where there is pretty much always tearing. There may be one exception to this and that is something like a deer hound trained to bring deer down but even then I’m not certain you’d get the puncture wounds and suffocation with internal bleeding.
I am using this to suggest to Welsh Gov that they should be consulted over the Kielder release.”
So tantalisingly close to conclusive evidence but unfortunately no cigar.
- Location
- Somerset
http://www.walesoncraic.com/lynx-snipers-take-positions-outside-borth-wild-animal-kingdom/
Sorry it's only part of the article
Sorry it's only part of the article
id have it posing in a cage with a whole in it with a plaque and quote “ The one that got away” I have no issue with him doing his job at least he done it properly unlinke the zoo keepers
Cowabunga
Member
- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
If the cat struggled and twisted round and round several times, who was going to go near it to untangle it? Its like a giant more ferocious version of my tabby cat and I don't fancy my chances against her, let alone a 12 to 20kg lynx in full battle mode.
Danllan
Member
- Location
- Sir Gar / Carms
@Dry Rot Lions are remarkable creatures and wild ones are bigger and more powerful than most people can believe, they hunt and kill buff after all.
There was a fashion among people on safari in the 80's for vehicles with roof tents, I remember some people staying at my uncle's place in Zim who were planning to go down to the Zambezi valley with one. When it was pointed out to them that their tent was about seven feet high, but that lions were about four feet at the shoulder and could easily reach over twelve feet when they stood upright, the travellers decided no to use their roof tent in the bush. When we left Tanzania in 2009 roof tents were all the rage again...
There was a fashion among people on safari in the 80's for vehicles with roof tents, I remember some people staying at my uncle's place in Zim who were planning to go down to the Zambezi valley with one. When it was pointed out to them that their tent was about seven feet high, but that lions were about four feet at the shoulder and could easily reach over twelve feet when they stood upright, the travellers decided no to use their roof tent in the bush. When we left Tanzania in 2009 roof tents were all the rage again...
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Despite persistent rumours of poor animal welfare rules over here- I venture the place would have been shut down a wee while back, if it was Balclutha and not Borth.
What a friggin shambles
What really puzzles me is, all the Facebook comments about how they don't attack humans, so why didn't someone just go pick it up and jam it in a sack?
popI need to go lie down
Philip Watkins
Member
- Location
- Back in Shropshire
Pity they used an ordinary tabby instead of a lynx in the picture.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Even that is more than the Lynx trust 'expert' was allowed to say unchallenged on Jeremy Whine yesterday. He stated that only one had bite marks, and the others had probably died from other causes (and went on to say how many sheep died in the UK each year through malnutrition, exposure & disease) and had probably been used by the NSA to make false claims.
Its probably already been highlighted somewhere in this thread but it said on the news that the Lynx was shot as it was a danger to the public. Even if we ignore the other ways that the lynx could have been caught / restrained, this species, that they want to introduce back into parts of the countryside, is deemed 'a threat to humans'. Will that have more sway on whether or not its released back into the countryside than the implications for farmers with stock out in the same countryside?
Paddington
Member
- Location
- Soggy Shropshire
I only listened to the first ten minutes or so, did anyone refute the "expert's" comments ?
- Location
- East Sussex
I like a challenge. Decent sized bath towel and some welding gloves.......what could possibly go wrong?!
Thinking about it, didn't @YorkshireAndrew have the correct tool?