Magneto for jcb powerpack

[Northeastfarmer]

ive just bought a jcb powerpack to run the wrapper....someone mentioned to me you can get a magneto or something similar to run the wrapper electrics which fits to the powerpack and keeps charged up...is this correct and has anyone done this....thanks for any advice

 

[agrimax]

I think you would need to change the flywheel and add a charging stator underneath it as well as a regulator/rectifier.

 

[Mydexta]

Is there enough power in those power packs to turn the table etc on a wrapper???

Also, is the cooler big enough to handle continous use for a long period of time????

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I think you would need to change the flywheel and add a charging stator underneath it as well as a regulator/rectifier.

Is that big/expensive job?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Is there enough power in those power packs to turn the table etc on a wrapper???

Also, is the cooler big enough to handle continous use for a long period of time????

Aye plenty of power

 

[agrimax]

It's a charging coil,and different flywheel plus a battery that is needed.
I'm guessing it's a Honda GX240.
There's this..........https://www.engineman.co.uk/electric-start-kit-gx240-gx270--84-34-p.asp
Although that's for a starter and key switch as well or ......
https://www.engineman.co.uk/charging-coil----all-models----82-1772-p.asp
But you still need to change the flywheel and it may or may not suit your pull start!
That stuff all looks to be Chinese copy items too.Don't know if this charging system would have enough output to keep the battery charged for the current drawn by the wrapper electrics either though.
You could contact the above or the likes of https://www.lsengineers.co.uk/ but their stuff will be genuine Honda.

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Don't know if this charging system would have enough output to keep the battery charged for the current drawn by the wrapper electrics either though.

It’s a good shout, but I’m really not sure the little charging coil setup off the flywheel would have the oomph to run the wrapper electrics.

Best to check what the wrapper electric draw actually is and compare to the output of the coil, but I reckon it would be well outclassed, as the lighting coil on those is really just designed to keep a little starter battery topped off with a trickle charge amount of current.

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

What size Honda engine is on the the Beaver (will be stamped on the side of the crankcase)?

Links below are for an American aftermarket performance parts website for various kart engines, Kohlers, Honda’s etc. etc but it shows what is possible in terms of adding a lighting coil to a GX series donk. Note that the coil kits with higher amp outputs (more than 1 or 2 amps), all involve multiple pole pickups.

1. Check with Tanco or whoever makes the wrapper on the current requirement for the wrapper, or measure it yourself direct from the battery connection to the wrapper.

2. If you’re good on the current need, it would be a very good idea to run the output of the lighting coil through a regulator and a battery. This stabilizes the voltage charging the battery and also stops you from frying your control box and solenoids on the wrapper, as your voltage from the lighting cable is otherwise uncontrolled.

3. Some of the bigger lighting coils below are AC output and definitely need a rectifier fitted to get DC out.

4. You’ll need a replacement flywheel, as said and battery. Also loom and possibly engine panel.

Coil, Charging, 12V/50W, GX120 to GX200, Genuine Honda

Coil, Lighting, 12V 7amp (84 watt), GX200 to GX200 : Genuine Honda

There is a much larger output lighting coil for a GX270 up to a GX390, but fairly sure that’s way bigger than what’s fitted on your Beaver pack.

Coil, Lighting, 12V 18amp (216 watt), GX390 : Genuine Honda

 

[livestock 1]

If it’s a mchale wrapper you will need a good oil flow. Are you definitely sure that will run it?

 

[livestock 1]

Remember a free flow return is best if it’s a mchale to avoid future problems

 

[Northeastfarmer]

It's a charging coil,and different flywheel plus a battery that is needed.
I'm guessing it's a Honda GX240.
There's this..........https://www.engineman.co.uk/electric-start-kit-gx240-gx270--84-34-p.asp
Although that's for a starter and key switch as well or ......
https://www.engineman.co.uk/charging-coil----all-models----82-1772-p.asp
But you still need to change the flywheel and it may or may not suit your pull start!
That stuff all looks to be Chinese copy items too.Don't know if this charging system would have enough output to keep the battery charged for the current drawn by the wrapper electrics either though.
You could contact the above or the likes of https://www.lsengineers.co.uk/ but their stuff will be genuine Honda.

Thanks for that

 

[Northeastfarmer]

What size Honda engine is on the the Beaver (will be stamped on the side of the crankcase)?

Links below are for an American aftermarket performance parts website for various kart engines, Kohlers, Honda’s etc. etc but it shows what is possible in terms of adding a lighting coil to a GX series donk. Note that the coil kits with higher amp outputs (more than 1 or 2 amps), all involve multiple pole pickups.

1. Check with Tanco or whoever makes the wrapper on the current requirement for the wrapper, or measure it yourself direct from the battery connection to the wrapper.

2. If you’re good on the current need, it would be a very good idea to run the output of the lighting coil through a regulator and a battery. This stabilizes the voltage charging the battery and also stops you from frying your control box and solenoids on the wrapper, as your voltage from the lighting cable is otherwise uncontrolled.

3. Some of the bigger lighting coils below are AC output and definitely need a rectifier fitted to get DC out.

4. You’ll need a replacement flywheel, as said and battery. Also loom and possibly engine panel.

Coil, Charging, 12V/50W, GX120 to GX200, Genuine Honda

Coil, Lighting, 12V 7amp (84 watt), GX200 to GX200 : Genuine Honda

There is a much larger output lighting coil for a GX270 up to a GX390, but fairly sure that’s way bigger than what’s fitted on your Beaver pack.

Coil, Lighting, 12V 18amp (216 watt), GX390 : Genuine Honda

I will check what size it is....wrapper is a Mchale 991

 

[Northeastfarmer]

If it’s a mchale wrapper you will need a good oil flow. Are you definitely sure that will run it?

Well it ran it for the last owner for the last 10 years and it ran it for me 3 weeks ago when I did 200 bales

 

[TripleSix]

What about a big car alternator fitted underneath the wrapper working off the table via a belt?

Big pulley on the wrapper and small pulley on the alternator.

Or how about running an alternator off the film spindle?

 

[livestock 1]

Well it ran it for the last owner for the last 10 years and it ran it for me 3 weeks ago when I did 200 bales

Ok I’ve looked at some and they didn’t have enough poke

 

[livestock 1]

What’s the litres per minute because I have 2 911s never sure what is needed

 

[Northeastfarmer]

What’s the litres per minute because I have 2 911s never sure what is needed

I have no idea...this power pack just ticks over and does it’s job canny

 

[livestock 1]

I have no idea...this power pack just ticks over and does it’s job canny

Does it have a number or anything on it?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Does it have a number or anything on it?

@Pheasant Surprise

 

[livestock 1]

Someone might know how many gallons per minute at what pressure is needed for a 911 on here?

P.S. not a Porsche 911