Making an Road through an Field

[RakeeyboE]

We have had planning permission for an shed granted, nothing was mentioned about access in the planning, we have an old gate at the bottom of the field which goes out to the road ( overgrown branches around the gate ) the gates always been there but doesn't show up on plan, would we be okay to make an road from the gate up to the new shed? What's the best way of going about this we were thinking to take photos of the old gate then opening ir up?
Thanks

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Does it show on google maps, ask the little orange dude.

depends how long the track is and how obvious it would be.

if there is a kerb which is dropped then id be tempted to crack on

 

[onesiedale]

We have had planning permission for an shed granted, nothing was mentioned about access in the planning, we have an old gate at the bottom of the field which goes out to the road ( overgrown branches around the gate ) the gates always been there but doesn't show up on plan, would we be okay to make an road from the gate up to the new shed? What's the best way of going about this we were thinking to take photos of the old gate then opening ir up?
Thanks

Access was always there through the gate. Do it, but do it tidy.
Just don't abuse it with tarmac, streetlights and signs!
On a serious note though, our landlord made us apply for pp for cowtracks. There was never an issue we wouldn't get it, but it did cost us £2½k.
Had we owned the farm ourselves we would never have even considered applying and I doubt very much no-one would ever have questioned it.

 

[steveR]

We have had planning permission for an shed granted, nothing was mentioned about access in the planning, we have an old gate at the bottom of the field which goes out to the road ( overgrown branches around the gate ) the gates always been there but doesn't show up on plan, would we be okay to make an road from the gate up to the new shed? What's the best way of going about this we were thinking to take photos of the old gate then opening ir up?
Thanks

Clear the brambles and what have you from around the old gate, taking lots of dated photos of the before and after, just case someone (Council wallah) queries it later, and you then have evidence it was always there... Good pics can "stretch" the existing gateway width with some care

Then just change the gate " for security" purposes. Nice new posts and a 14ft gate should be fine. Make it look like a field gate entrance... as @onesiedale suggests. Might be worth a few trips up and down the field to show clearly, the "existing" route taken...

 

[RakeeyboE]

I would say the road would be about 60/70 Meters and there isn't an pavement there it's litreately grass then road no kerbs at all only thing it's on an corner and splays aren't the best,

Onesiedale so even though we didn't specify in planning permission we'll be okay to put shale rock down etc to make an road up from the gate to the shed, ( well have to put shale down as it'll be too wet to drive on at the bottom)

Thanks

 

[RakeeyboE]

How do I see if it's showing with the orange on Google maps

 

[steveR]

I would say the road would be about 60/70 Meters and there isn't an pavement there it's litreately grass then road no kerbs at all only thing it's on an corner and splays aren't the best,

Onesiedale so even though we didn't specify in planning permission we'll be okay to put shale rock down etc to make an road up from the gate to the shed, ( well have to put shale down as it'll be too wet to drive on at the bottom)

Thanks

Should be OK with Permitted Development, which you wll probably need. I'ts the inevitable busybodies one needs to be careful of

BUT, if your exit is so bad, maybe it's sensible to have a word with a Highways chap AFTER, sorting the gateway. As in, looking to create a safer field entrance. The response and requirements will vary on the class of the road though....

 

[suffolksmallholder]

The first meter should be of a bound material to satisfy the highways authority. https://tarmac.com/products/concrete/cement-bound-granular-mixture-cbgm/
SS

 

[Pan mixer]

The first meter should be of a bound material to satisfy the highways authority. https://tarmac.com/products/concrete/cement-bound-granular-mixture-cbgm/
SS

They make us do the first 6m here.

 

[steveR]

They make us do the first 6m here.

Concrete or Tarmac?

I know of one, who put planings on MOT... Looked good until it was wet and then soon cut up with Ag traffic!

 

[Pan mixer]

Concrete or Tarmac?

I know of one, who put planings on MOT... Looked good until it was wet and then soon cut up with Ag traffic!

They just say 'sealed surface'

 

[steveR]

They just say 'sealed surface'

Guess it comes down an Officer actually getting out and having a look at what has been done...

 

[RakeeyboE]

I'm going to use Shale Rock as road it's what we have on our main driveway up to the farm no problems and it's what most of the farms in the area use for their tracks

 

[puma power]

If the road is 'unclassified' then you can open the gateway up as wide as you like without planning on the basis of health and safety, basically a wide entrance gives a good view on to road. The road from the gateway to the store may need planning however as it could be classed as altering as level. Can't believe you've been granted planning without an access statement though? if its on a unclassified road, stick the shed up and once the planners are out of the way crack on with the road. If they do then pick up on it they'll prob just write you a letter telling you off, worst case you'll have to apply retrospectively.

 

[Tarw Coch]

If the road is 'unclassified' then you can open the gateway up as wide as you like without planning on the basis of health and safety, basically a wide entrance gives a good view on to road. The road from the gateway to the store may need planning however as it could be classed as altering as level. Can't believe you've been granted planning without an access statement though? if its on a unclassified road, stick the shed up and once the planners are out of the way crack on with the road. If they do then pick up on it they'll prob just write you a letter telling you off, worst case you'll have to apply retrospectively.

IIRC you can make a roadway out of concrete sleepers without planning as they are removable.
I’m sure someone will know and correct me if wrong.

 

[Cowabunga]

How do I see if it's showing with the orange on Google maps

drag and drop the orange man from the corner to the road just where the gate is. You can then travel up and down the road using Street View which you then using automatically.

 

[Still Farming]

Full planning for tracks officially here in Wales anyhow.
Intrusion into the countryside apparently

 

[RakeeyboE]

I've gone on Google maps but you can't see the gate as it's overgrown, maybe ir would show in an Google maps from about 12 years ago as we did use the gateway then,
Tarw Coch - We were going to use Shale rock, haven't looked into concrete sleepers, expensive I would say!

 

[Tarw Coch]

I've gone on Google maps but you can't see the gate as it's overgrown, maybe ir would show in an Google maps from about 12 years ago as we did use the gateway then,
Tarw Coch - We were going to use Shale rock, haven't looked into concrete sleepers, expensive I would say!

I wasn’t so much thinking about the cost as that I’ve got something in my mind that you don’t need planning for concrete sleepers but you do for stone although that could well relate to cow tracks and there’s every possibility I’m wrong.
I put it up here for discussion as I’m sure someone will know a definitive answer

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Full planning for tracks officially here in Wales anyhow.
Intrusion into the countryside apparently

since when?