Op here trying to work out my hourly cost here at the minute can anybody help me out how much it would cost to change filters and change engine and back end oil on my valtra 8150. Thanks in advance (not sure on how much yet as I only got tractor and havnt got round to servicing it yet)
Man and tractor price??
- Thread starter Shane s
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Done this out here. Costs may not be exact at the moment. Used @rookswood costs as a help/ reference. What I have changed from his is prices to suit my tractor and also changed as he had cost for Warranty I done cost for repairs. I have taken out the cost of depreciation for I know my tractor will not go down in value as I bought my tractor a bit lower than there value as farmer bought another new valtra and was selling this older one
I'm not having a dig at you,but 500 quid a year because tractor ment to be reliable did make me laugh..
You need to remember a brand new Fendt can sh!t it's self,so a 20 year old valtra has just as much chance as anything..
Have you phoned local tyre fitters and asked how much a call out is for a puncture?
Courier
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- M62 - M1 - M18 triangle
So when the farmer you bought your tractor from bought his new one how much extra did he need to pay compared to what you paid him ?? [emoji15]
He must have been a fool for getting rid of this perfectly good economical machine.......[emoji38]
I'd always be more pessimistic that realistic on my repair costs. If you think it will be £500, put the cost at £1000 and work on that figure.
If you have little or no trouble then happy days you'll have more in your pocket at the end if the year but if you do have a problem you'll have more to fix it with and you won't have to then put your prices up after to cover the extra cost.
If you have little or no trouble then happy days you'll have more in your pocket at the end if the year but if you do have a problem you'll have more to fix it with and you won't have to then put your prices up after to cover the extra cost.
- Location
- North Wales
Question on replacement cost.
How much of the replacement tractor should the current tractor pay for?
The current tractor has to pay for its own purchase cost and it is a down payment on the next if traded in. Should the new tractor be funding the price difference or is the current tractor expected to pay for its self and the replacement?
How much of the replacement tractor should the current tractor pay for?
The current tractor has to pay for its own purchase cost and it is a down payment on the next if traded in. Should the new tractor be funding the price difference or is the current tractor expected to pay for its self and the replacement?
I factor in a replacement cost to cover the price increase in a like for like tractor. With the drop in the pound, tractor prices have increased and if I wanted to go and trade in my tractor for a new one and had not of factored in a replacement cost I would be out of pocket but have the same tractor in the shed. If you are upgrading the tractor e.g. Higher hp or more spec then that cost should be factored into the new tractor coatings.
most tractors here are used for farm work and contract baling and mowing at summer, any tractor only or slurry work is a bonus so we chrage £25 hour, none of this is ever too taxing on fuel, we use our own fuel as we know what it is and that it is filtered.
insurance is priced into baling and farm work, tire wear etc too as this is garanteed work pretty much. more work may mean a higher risk of a breakdown or mean the part may wear out sooner. sure work is the work i have always based prices and costs on.
think the op should do this too, base most of his cost on sure work, and bearing in mind this is northern ireland and unless u are lucky enough to be beside a big farm most of the time u will be helping out and the proper price-£30plus might seem to high to the farmer, so u might have to compromise, i find that no one complians about £25 and i am happy with it, it will never give me fulltime work for the hassle invovled.
from may i am now employed and get on average £260-280 a week after tax paid and had one of the hardest summers working as dad had a broken foot and weather wasnt in our favour, but hey machines are paid for and it is now a hobby, quite a good one, i will see where this goes but it wasnt profitablity that i decided to look for ajob, it was a clash of minds.
insurance is priced into baling and farm work, tire wear etc too as this is garanteed work pretty much. more work may mean a higher risk of a breakdown or mean the part may wear out sooner. sure work is the work i have always based prices and costs on.
think the op should do this too, base most of his cost on sure work, and bearing in mind this is northern ireland and unless u are lucky enough to be beside a big farm most of the time u will be helping out and the proper price-£30plus might seem to high to the farmer, so u might have to compromise, i find that no one complians about £25 and i am happy with it, it will never give me fulltime work for the hassle invovled.
from may i am now employed and get on average £260-280 a week after tax paid and had one of the hardest summers working as dad had a broken foot and weather wasnt in our favour, but hey machines are paid for and it is now a hobby, quite a good one, i will see where this goes but it wasnt profitablity that i decided to look for ajob, it was a clash of minds.
Speedstar
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- Scottish Borders
These cost you have put in are all to low £500 for repairs to a tractor that age is nothing , Having never ran a Valtra, you may be lucky but if it needs look at by a dealer £500 would get you the van out to you & 2 hours of work if you are lucky I would say you need your cost in at £18 per hour + you time, Some people will tell you No put them in at less but you will be in over your head is some thing goes wrong, take a couple of flat tyres on a road £500 gone like that.
what does your valtra dealer charge you per hour, never paid my main dealer for mf or valmet more than £25 an hour, but never had a call out charge, both willing to discuss any problems over the phone, smaller outlet maybe than in mainland
ollandroverman
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- nr Kendal (The Lake District)
That is silly cheap!
Dealers here in south Cumbria are at least double that. Fendt are over £65 per hour as I remember. Could even be £68 per hour.
You have no chance of even getting a cheap independent mechanic to turn up for those prices.
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- Larne, Northern Ireland
Our NH dealer was £32 an hour a few years ago, and that was fixing a broken wire
My valtra would be traded in to help cost of a replacement tractor. I'll not be buying new tractors what ever that suits my job and that will be in my price budget. I don't need nothing fancy or a complete head turner
Arnt you based in Tyrone
This is making excellent reading, it sums up how other people structure their businesses. All I will say is, when you get a catastrophic failiure, be it a 2 year old tractor or a 20 year old tractor and you've not had your costings right, you won't have the capital to repair or replace it. You're all working for the here and now, not planning for the long term. If you're happy working for very little money, that's a hobby, don't in turn make the businesses suffer through your hobby.
Those old model valtras are very cheap to run , some years you spend nothing on them , other years you need a clutch , brake cylinders or hydraulic pump , they won't cost £1 / hr on repairs unless your very unlucky .
- Location
- Oxfordshire
Surely the customer loses? You're implying you charge more than flash jack? And you say your machine is slower.
John 1594
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- Cambridgeshire
If you cared to read the post i was replying to, you would see that the question was asked...would farmers choose to leave hedges un-cut rather than paying £40/hr, which seem to be the going rate for larger machine
Now you can see where the £35 comes in. Yes i may be slower, but my machine is lighter and more nimble in tight areas, less ground damage etc
when your having to shunt off 100 yards of hedge because you cant turn round at the bottom of the drove, having something light makes a lot of difference