Mass Trespass?

[Ffermer Bach]

The mistake was her rule that the receipts from the sales must not be used to build more houses. The exact opposite of what should have happened in hindsight.

I do agree with that actually

 

[Exfarmer]

I do agree with that actually

The problem was, Maggie was trying to clear a lot of the historic debt , which had been accumulated by these councils. The interest payments for which , were draining the ratepayer

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

I think the housing crisis is due to unrestricted immigration and unequal economic growth, too much concentrated in the South East. it is not like after Mrs Thatcher sold the council houses people stopped being

The problem was, Maggie was trying to clear a lot of the historic debt , which had been accumulated by these councils. The interest payments for which , were draining the ratepayer

Agreed, but selling the housing stock to fund revenue costs was always a mistake. The rest of the "selling the family silver" was debatable but understandable.

 

[Exfarmer]

Agreed, but selling the housing stock to fund revenue costs was always a mistake. The rest of the "selling the family silver" was debatable but understandable.

It may have been a mistake, but the issue was that Councils had borrowed huge sums of money at very low rates to build these properties. Since then rates had risen and very often rents, ( which were very frequently not collected in many urban areas such as Liverpool) did not even cover the interest payments. Hence the local rate payers were picking up this tab and the maintenance and capital repayments. This was grossly unfair when many of the ratepayers were living in worse accommodation.
The sell off was very poorly handled in many areas though enabling a few speculators to make very large sums , which was never the intention. In some cases these speculators were the very same councillors who had colluded with tenants to avoid paying the rents.

 

[TheTallGuy]

The mistake was her rule that the receipts from the sales must not be used to build more houses. The exact opposite of what should have happened in hindsight.

Selling off the council houses didn't reduce the amount of housing stock. If anything, it's helped to boost the role of independent housing associations that are throwing up housing stock as fast as they can find sites & get permission around here. Councils are pretty much the last organisation that you want to be in charge of social housing these days - first hint of budgetary constraints and maintenance goes gets kicked down the line to become a bigger problem, then all the nonsense of contracting everything out & the costs associated with the tendering processes.

 

[Jam Tomorrow]

Ah f&ck off with your wishy washy nonsense. I’ve worked too hard for too long as a good custodian of this land and wildlife , and producer of good for us all.
Irritate me on trespass day and you’ll have my boot up your behind .

 

[Exfarmer]

I would have thought best solution would be contact the police at first sign of any trespass , tell them you are sure you have seen long dogs and poor hare bering chased

 

[primmiemoo]

If the dear little souls ben't "targeting farmers" with their threatened trespass, then why are they proposing doing it on land that is farmed? Why not wheeze and puff along to an industrial estate or business park?

 

[7610 super q]

Ah f&ck off with your wishy washy nonsense. I’ve worked too hard for too long as a good custodian of this land and wildlife , and producer of good for us all.
Irritate me on trespass day and you’ll have my boot up your behind .

A most excellent post.

 

[GeorgeC1]

I thought you were all about rewilding, bemoaning loss of habitat and species? But when you get a bit of your own you're going to develop it. Like every other nimby you're all in favour of wolves, beavers and giving it over to nature but not your own patch, that's for houses.
And before you say it will be brownfield so it's ok, brownfield can still be rewilded and provide valuable habitat.

Reread what I wrote green development part of that is I plan to offset the impact of the developments

I do support rewinding, I do plan on giving land over to national trust once I am set up to offset the impact of my development.

I'm eyeing up farmland within the M25, there's a drive for green developments in London, so I want to get in early so I can get in relatively early.

 

[Yale]

Agreed, but selling the housing stock to fund revenue costs was always a mistake. The rest of the "selling the family silver" was debatable but understandable.

However when a lot of the types who existed in these council houses would smash the internal doors off to burn on the fire and trash the place because they could then where was the ‘family silver’.

A lot of tenants were not ‘invested‘ in their homes,this changed with ownership.

The costs of council properties with subsidised rent literally drains local authorities and pushes up council tax for everyone else.

 

[Henarar]

Reread what I wrote green development part of that is I plan to offset the impact of the developments

I do support rewinding, I do plan on giving land over to national trust once I am set up to offset the impact of my development.

I'm eyeing up farmland within the M25, there's a drive for green developments in London, so I want to get in early so I can get in relatively early.

how is giving land to NT going to offset anything, do more good to run some bullocks on it

 

[Highland Mule]

Reread what I wrote green development part of that is I plan to offset the impact of the developments

I do support rewinding, I do plan on giving land over to national trust once I am set up to offset the impact of my development.

I'm eyeing up farmland within the M25, there's a drive for green developments in London, so I want to get in early so I can get in relatively early.

wtf are "green developments"?

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

wtf are "green developments"?

I think he means "Greenwashed developments"

 

[Henarar]

I think he means "Greenwashed developments"

Green is the colour.. ..

 

[2wheels]

would you want to share the hookers ?

Iv'e no experience of them but by the nature of the profession aren't they shared anyway?

 

[Phil P]

Not even 24h since village did litter picking session and some arse has driven out to the countryside for a walk and decided to leave us with there sh!te yet again .
This is where they all park to walk up one of our tracks which also has a footpath, there’s already more litter stuck in the hedge there too!

 

[TWF]

The other thing you lot in Aus have is 9 people/mile2, New Zealand 49/mile2 , USA 87/mile2, France 317/mile2 and the UK 725/mile2. Population density. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population_density

 

[SteveHants]

I don't have 500 acres, but what I do have is bought and paid for...

The various "subsidies" are considerably less than the bill for social housing, or the various benefits or tax credits & already come with a long list of rules that have to be complied with. Aside from which.... How much do taxpayers subsidise people who smoke & drink, do drugs, go on foreign holidays, squeeze out sprogs every other year, or have expensive cars? What benefit does wider society attain in return?

No, they aren't - most LA's make a profit or break even on social housing, thanks.

 

[Farmer Roy]

The other thing you lot in Aus have is 9 people/mile2, New Zealand 49/mile2 , USA 87/mile2, France 317/mile2 and the UK 725/mile2. Population density. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population_density

the very first National Park in Australia was established in I think the 1870’s, to “provide recreation” for the people of Sydney