Massey 595 not starting

[JW & JA]

I’m not mechanically minded and I know it’s cold outside: but I just can’t get my MF 595 to start.

I’ve disconnected the battery and put it in charge over night, then reconnected in the morning, done the usual of leaving it for a few mins for the glow plug to warm up and it turns over a couple times and then clicks/stops. I’ve tried other batteries to see if that makes a difference, as well as using a booster pack.

Any advice?

 

[daveydiesel1]

Sounds like a bad earth

 

[Wellytrack]

Bad earth.

Take jump leads and connect them direct from the battery to starter.

Either that or a big fire underneath it and go get your breakfast.

 

[startinghandle]

check earth and report back

 

[ACEngineering]

I’m not mechanically minded and I know it’s cold outside: but I just can’t get my MF 595 to start.

I’ve disconnected the battery and put it in charge over night, then reconnected in the morning, done the usual of leaving it for a few mins for the glow plug to warm up and it turns over a couple times and then clicks/stops. I’ve tried other batteries to see if that makes a difference, as well as using a booster pack.

Any advice?

Bad earth or connection somewhere or a knackered starter

 

[serf]

Sounds like starter recon needed, have you taken heater plug out and seen it glow.

 

[essexpete]

Put a jump lead or two from the neg pole on the battery to clean metal on the engine. If that does not help then you may have a starter issue. I would not waste time with an ebay cheapie or even recon. See @ACEngineering above for a reduction starter. They seem expensive but well worth it and will not draw down a battery so quickly.

 

[manhill]

Typical jumper leads make a very sma ll contact area on battery or starter. Quality ones have a large contact area (like welding clamps) and worth getting. Contact area is all important because of the high current involved.

 

[DrWazzock]

Shouldn’t the heater only need about 20 seconds, not “a few minutes”.
Is the battery old and knackered?
Check all the big electrical connections.
But probably needs a new starter.

 

[Wisconsonian]

when did it start normally? how long has it been doing this? did it start with cold weather, and how cold is it? did you bring the battery in the house overnight to charge and warm it up? Hydraulic valves returned to neutral?

 

[JW & JA]

Sorry chaps, just realised I never replied. The jump lead on the negative as an earth doesn’t seem to make any difference. The battery is a fairly new one. I’ve put it in my mains power boost for 10 mins and it turns over well for a few seconds and dies to nothing and just clicks...
Any more thoughts?

 

[Wellytrack]

Yea, wait another 3 months. She should be well warmed through by August

 

[Wisconsonian]

If a different good battery does the same thing, then I'd turn the engine by hand with the fan and fan belt over one compression stroke before trying anything, then crank it until it stops, then hop off and see if the engine feels harder to turn. I'm thinking it's building hydraulic pressure and locking the engine, maybe against a weak starter and bad connections in the cables, but the hydraulic pressure is the only thing that makes sense for only cranking a couple seconds with different good batteries.

I don't know the hydraulic system on this, so I won't guess more.

 

[JW & JA]

If a different good battery does the same thing, then I'd turn the engine by hand with the fan and fan belt over one compression stroke before trying anything, then crank it until it stops, then hop off and see if the engine feels harder to turn. I'm thinking it's building hydraulic pressure and locking the engine, maybe against a weak starter and bad connections in the cables, but the hydraulic pressure is the only thing that makes sense for only cranking a couple seconds with different good batteries.

I don't know the hydraulic system on this, so I won't guess more.

I think you might be right in the hydraulic pressure. I’ve tried starting but dropping the link arms down and it starts...