Meat: a threat to our planet.

Shep

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We have been told that we have 12 years, so expect some extreme pressure to make drastic changes to our way of life! This is so that in 12 years when the world doesn't end, they will be able to say "we saved the earth" therefore we were right and we need you to do this or that because there is some other threat of some kind.
If nothing much changes and the world does not end in 12 years then the whole movement will look like what it is, a farce.
They have given themselves 12 years to get as many radical communist policies foisted on the world as possible, so expect this and more in the coming years.
 

topground

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Location
North Somerset.
When I was kid growing up we were frightened by the media with tales of nuclear war and the end of humanity. Prompted by government so that they could show how they were protecting us. That seems to have faded away the replaced with climate change where it is the multinationals that seek to profit by changing to unnatural processed food diets that are more profitable than basic foodstuffs.
 
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Victor

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Location
Devon
Don't believe much what comes out of the bbc now
The headlines about 11000 scientists supporting climate doom report but didnt mention a well known scientist Micky Mouse had signed
Any other subject the bbc would be all over this blatant con but its climate change which cannot be opposed or ridiculed
The blatant disregard for balanced reporting and the lack of investigation into news storylines is appalling
 

delilah

Member
Just look at her face.............

People are so disconnected from their food source its ridiculous.... maybe the BBC should be promoting seasonal veg, game and eating local meat. Think of the green impact if everyone did that!

@Guy Smith . Have the NFU approached the BBC with the concept of making a TV programme/series focusing on the environmental benefits of a local diet, ie one based on UK produce ?
 

Sid

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
@Guy Smith . Have the NFU approached the BBC with the concept of making a TV programme/series focusing on the environmental benefits of a local diet, ie one based on UK produce ?
I have Stuart Roberts on my farm tomorrow morning, with 12 other grassroot members. This is one of the subjects I have on the agenda, as well as carbon sequestration on British farms and how it's a public good we need to rewarded for in the future. Not only what we can do but what we are ALREADY doing!
We have to stop this rot of tarring global agriculture with the same brush.
@Guy Smith I will corner you on same on Friday!
 
Just read a synopsis of the programme on the BBC1 website.
Liz Bonnin is a meat eater.
It seems as if it will start all too predictable, looking at the worst case situations, then meet some people who have examined the ethics of meat eating and are eating home reared/locally sourced/high welfare etc etc.
So not all bad.
I won't be able to watch the programme but will catch it on player later.
 

Sid

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
From what I have gleaned today, the part on UK ag plc doesn't paint a very good picture.

Lots of talk here today about carbon sequestration and Nelms, how we put that forward as public money for public good and tying up the whole healthy environmentally sustainable food with mineral and vitamins balance that the British consumer is willing to and can afford to pay for is a huge challenge and needs a game change in thought process from top to bottom!
 

delilah

Member
needs a game change in thought process from top to bottom!

starting with the NFU.
It sounds from that (and thanks for sharing) as if the NFU are focusing their efforts on how to reinvent taxpayer support as being a payment for mitigating against climate change.

They need to spend at least as much time and effort on highlighting the ways in which eating British is in itself the environmental option. The public may struggle with 'carbon sequestration', but they will far easier understand 'food miles'. UK ag needs to drastically up its game on selling the inherent environmental benefits in eating local. To do that the NFU needs to accept that the environmental movement is its friend, not its enemy. Now that would be a game changer.
 

jondear

Member
Location
Devon
From what I have gleaned today, the part on UK ag plc doesn't paint a very good picture.

Lots of talk here today about carbon sequestration and Nelms, how we put that forward as public money for public good and tying up the whole healthy environmentally sustainable food with mineral and vitamins balance that the British consumer is willing to and can afford to pay for is a huge challenge and needs a game change in thought process from top to bottom!
Good to see you back!
 

Swarfmonkey

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Location
Hampshire
To do that the NFU needs to accept that the environmental movement is its friend, not its enemy.

Can't see that happening. Much of the environmental movement has little to do with the environment and everything to do with far-left politics with a coat of green paint. I believe the phrase "watermelon politics" covers it. Take Moonboot and his anti-sheep and anti-farmer crusade, or Guy Shrubsole from FoE whose more obsessed with who owns land rather than what's done with it, for example. Then you've got the likes of XR (which, in reality, is nothing more than a re-branding of the anti-capitalist group Rising Up!), whose distaste for representative democracy is obvious through their demands for "citizens assemblies", whose decisions government would be forced to implement.
 

delilah

Member
Can't see that happening. Much of the environmental movement has little to do with the environment and everything to do with far-left politics with a coat of green paint. I believe the phrase "watermelon politics" covers it. Take Moonboot and his anti-sheep and anti-farmer crusade, or Guy Shrubsole from FoE whose more obsessed with who owns land rather than what's done with it, for example. Then you've got the likes of XR (which, in reality, is nothing more than a re-branding of the anti-capitalist group Rising Up!), whose distaste for representative democracy is obvious through their demands for "citizens assemblies", whose decisions government would be forced to implement.

You have accurately identified some left-wing individuals who have attached themselves to the environmental movement as a flag of convenience. They do not in themselves make the environmental movement a left-wing movement. It would be interesting to see the voting habits of FoE members, never mind CPRE, The Wildlife Trusts etc.
 

Muddyroads

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Location
Devon
Did I see something this morning about David Attenborough saying he’s stopping eating red meat? He carries a lot of clout with Joe Public. Can’t we get him on board an “Eat British red meat for the sake of the planet” campaign somehow?
 

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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