MF 6180 jumping out of forwards

[TrewithickFarm]

Morning all,

My Massey 6180 electronic shuttle keeps jumping out of forward when going from reverse or won’t engage forwards at all. Any ideas?
Thanks
Steve

 

[daveydiesel1]

Id say its time to convert her to manual shuttle

 

[dee]

The selector fork can wear especially tractors with the electric shuttle. Is there big hours on the tractor

 

[TrewithickFarm]

It’s got 6700 hours, I was wondering wether it could be the solenoid getting weak and not shuttling the valve?

Once it’s in forward you clutch and declutch as much as you want.

 

[dee]

You could swap the solenoids around to rule them out.

 

[Tarw Coch]

Id say its time to convert her to manual shuttle

We did that with ours and wished we done it sooner.

 

[wdah/him]

when we bought our 6180 it was electric shuttle, converted before delivery to manuel.

at bout 7000ish hours we had to fit a new selector fork, as said above more common to electric shuttle ones as not set right/adjusted for wear over time.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

i love a left hand shuttle, if it were me i would try fix it if possible the manual shuttle is ok but pretty numb.

 

[GFA]

Have you tried calibrating it

 

[TrewithickFarm]

Was going to switch the solenoids tomorrow see if the fault moves.

how do you calibrate it @GFA

 

[GFA]

Was going to switch the solenoids tomorrow see if the fault moves.

how do you calibrate it @GFA

Can't remember exactly years since I've done one but it's something like holding the diff lock switch as you start the tractor and whilst still holding the diff lock switch pull the gear stick to the side as if you were changing hi low. It will then automatically change from forwards to reverse to calibrate once it's done this a few times it should then stop and select a gear. the oil will need to be warm or it won't start calibrating. If it starts beeping after the calibration sequence you probably have a problem with the potentiometer or its working outside its range due to needing adjusted or you have a worn fork making it read out of range. Someone with an autotronic tester can look at all the functions on screen and see what it's doing.

 

[TrewithickFarm]

Can't remember exactly years since I've done one but it's something like holding the diff lock switch as you start the tractor and whilst still holding the diff lock switch pull the gear stick to the side as if you were changing hi low. It will then automatically change from forwards to reverse to calibrate once it's done this a few times it should then stop and select a gear. the oil will need to be warm or it won't start calibrating. If it starts beeping after the calibration sequence you probably have a problem with the potentiometer or its working outside its range due to needing adjusted or you have a worn fork making it read out of range. Someone with an autotronic tester can look at all the functions on screen and see what it's doing.

cool thanks, I will have ago at that tomorrow. Think i have a workshop manual for her on my computer will have a look for it.

There is a local independent chap who has all the diagnostic stuff so may end up giving him a call.

 

[TrewithickFarm]

Swapped the solenoids around and fault moved with them. Going to order up a new solenoid

 

[Nearly]

@masseybreaker

 

[TrewithickFarm]

Yikes £100 for a new one ?

taken the one from the diff lock to keep me moving for a moment.

Anyone done a front hub seal? Is it big job? Mines just started leaking. Just when grounds drying up ?

 

[daveydiesel1]

Done our 5465 2 weeks ago fairly big job but if your good with the spanners its not 2 bad

 

[TrewithickFarm]

Done our 5465 2 weeks ago fairly big job but if your good with the spanners its not 2 bad

Did you need any special tooling or pullers?

 

[daveydiesel1]

Not really but the shaft has to come out right from the diff and chech the shaft for wear cause if its wore a seal wont sort it itl either be a new shaft needed or get it built up and lathed to size which could be a problem if u normally go to a business thats currently shut

 

[GFA]

Yikes £100 for a new one ?

taken the one from the diff lock to keep me moving for a moment.

Anyone done a front hub seal? Is it big job? Mines just started leaking. Just when grounds drying up ?

Is it the big hub seal that's leaking or one of the smaller half shaft seals either hub side or axle side

 

[TrewithickFarm]

Oil is coming from inside the pivot if that makes sense?