MF and Valtra new 400-500hp

[tractor_lover]

I don't know if there is a similar thread, i can't found it.

At Agritechnica 2015 Agco had announced a new conventional tractor range between 400 and 500 hp.

https://www.profi.com/news/Agritechnica-400-500hp-tractors-for-MF-and-Valtra-2604188.html

after several months we have more information about this new range??

It's clear that it won't be a clone of the Fendt 1000 even if in this other article they talks about a common platform:

https://www.profi.com/news/Agritechnica-Business-AGCO-works-on-platform-strategy-2616940.html

 

[holywell farmer]

I don't know if there is a similar thread, i can't found it.

At Agritechnica 2015 Agco had announced a new conventional tractor range between 400 and 500 hp.

https://www.profi.com/news/Agritechnica-400-500hp-tractors-for-MF-and-Valtra-2604188.html

after several months we have more information about this new range??

It's clear that it won't be a clone of the Fendt 1000 even if in this other article they talks about a common platform:

https://www.profi.com/news/Agritechnica-Business-AGCO-works-on-platform-strategy-2616940.html

cvt I assume ?

 

[tractor_lover]

Sure it will be a Cvt, similar to the 1000 vario one.

What about the engine? Man or Sisu?

 

[aussie massey]

I would imagine it would probably be sisu powered

Sure it will be a Cvt, similar to the 1000 vario one.

What about the engine? Man or Sisu?

I would imagine it would probably be a sisu engine, maybe the 7 cylinder. If they use the MAN engine they may as well just rebadge the fendt 1000 series. Early reports say they are going to rebadge the fendt 1000 series as challengers for the USA market

 

[tractor_lover]

Yes, but i think that the 9,8 l Sisu is small compared to the 12,4 l Man of the Fendt.

According to the second document i've posted before, there will be similar solutions under the bonnets and differences on the rest of the components in the future Agco ranges.

I don't think it will be a Fendt 1000 with different colours like the Challenger, but i suppose it would be a similar machine with different features on the drive line.
What do you think about?

 

[aussie massey]

The 7 cylinder should be good for around 450 to just under 500 hp max, maybe that's as far as they will go on the valtra and MF. And the Fendt 1000 series will be the biggest premium product in the agco stable for conventional tractors. I just cant see an MF or especially a valtra powered by anything other than sisu. Sisu do have the motor, but I don't think I`ll see the day agco drop a v12 in conventional tractor.

 

[tractor_lover]

I think that v12 is an engine for articulated and tracked tractor, not good for a conventional.

If you have heard that they are going to rebadge the fendt 1000 series, i think that it could be truthful that they will be similar product but not the same.
In the profi document they talks about stage 5 engine too.

When it will be launched? Sima?

 

[aussie massey]

I think that v12 is an engine for articulated and tracked tractor, not good for a conventional.

If you have heard that they are going to rebadge the fendt 1000 series, i think that it could be truthful that they will be similar product but not the same.
In the profi document they talks about stage 5 engine too.

When it will be launched? Sima?

I think it will be at least twelve months before we see any serious info and launch dates on these tractors

 

[Wombat]

You mean a challenger Fendt like this

 

[aussie massey]

You mean a challenger Fendt like this

That's the one

 

[paddy2]

And there we have it.......3.03 into the clip "England is not an important market"!?!

You mean a challenger Fendt like this

 

[Roger Perry]

My local dealer rep went on a sales deal a couple of weeks back at the launch, said it was a MAN engine.

 

[tractor_lover]

My local dealer rep went on a sales deal a couple of weeks back at the launch, said it was a MAN engine.

Do you mean under the bonnet of the Challenger or of the future Mf/Valtra?
The Challenger is a yellow Fendt 1000 with some different features inside the cab.

 

[Darren]

And there we have it.......3.03 into the clip "England is not an important market"!?!

Most of the big manufactures will tell you that. In the grand scheme of things we're a small market

 

[Roger Perry]

Hmmmm, dont think we need one..!

 

[Sebastian]

Hmmmm, dont think we need one..!

Just the thing for a 4 furrow plough.

 

[tractor_lover]

In the document of agritechnica press conference Agco talks about new investment on engines.

So, even if is difficult, could we imagine a new Agco Power engine platform?

 

[ORRA LOON]

Hmmmm, dont think we need one..!

The man on the video said it will do the work of 2 John Deeres [emoji12]

 

[bluegreen]

Whats the point of even bigger MFs and Valtras? You lot only buy green conventional wheeled tractors above 350hp, even CASE magnums hardly sell any these days.
MF 8700s are like hens teeth round here, which is a great shame as they deserve to do well.

 

[tractor_lover]

Any news about this range?

Do you think is possibile a preview of this MF at Sima 2017?