Milk Price Tracker

[cornishfarmer]

The funny thing is Arla holding the milk price down for Müller produces but we may have a 5ppl 13th payment!!!!!!! Heir Müller is having fun at your expense
What a joke people blaming Arla for their dairy’s price perhaps they are taking advantage of you and you should ask yourselves are they taking the pi€$

 

[Cows 'n grass]

Arla UK now sets UK milk price and has done for the last 3 years

That may be the case but why not blame FM for not setting the price higher than Arla?

 

[stablegirl]

We as Arla suppliers spend an awful lot of time on here explaining and defending Arla to non members, its exhausting especially when they have no interest in actually understanding how it works, and instead just jump on the Arla bashing bandwagon.

Arla may have its problems and weaknesses, but on this forum its members are the most open and enter into the spirit of the discussion, instead of dodging questions or hiding behind technicalities.

 

[jackrussell101]

That may be the case but why not blame FM for not setting the price higher than Arla?

I blame them as well.

 

[jackrussell101]

The milk market needs to be more like the oil and wheat markets.

 

[Fergieman]

@jackrussell101 Do you or your wife buy Arla products?
If not why not? If Arla set the UK price the more Arla products everyone buys the higher our Arla price and 13th payment will be which in turn will help put up Mullers price.

 

[Sid]

Because Muller only pay what Arla pay.

But not on the continent!?

The funny thing is Arla holding the milk price down for Müller produces but we may have a 5ppl 13th payment!!!!!!! Heir Müller is having fun at your expense
What a joke people blaming Arla for their dairy’s price perhaps they are taking advantage of you and you should ask yourselves are they taking the pi€$

But you don't have to invest capital into Muller. So it can make it easier to switch.

On the 5p 13th payment some of that is on capital invested in Arla the rest is working capital withheld from the producer to run the business. That has a cost to your business.

 

[jackrussell101]

@jackrussell101 Do you or your wife buy Arla products?
If not why not? If Arla set the UK price the more Arla products everyone buys the higher our Arla price and 13th payment will be which in turn will help put up Mullers price.

I like your thinking. And we would if we see them, although our own personal consumption would only be a drop in he ocean.

 

[jackrussell101]

I'm going to ring the OFT and see what they have to say about it, probably naff all.

 

[holstein654]

If Meadow were a CooP they could have paid an extra 2.5ppl over the past couple of years based on performance and profits, would be interesting to compare that and their commodity model with the others and their brands

We as Arla suppliers spend an awful lot of time on here explaining and defending Arla to non members, its exhausting especially when they have no interest in actually understanding how it works, and instead just jump on the Arla bashing bandwagon.

Arla may have its problems and weaknesses, but on this forum its members are the most open and enter into the spirit of the discussion, instead of dodging questions or hiding behind technicalities.

I honestly thought you were being sarcastic in your first post blaming your current milk price on arla.

However it appears you are deadly serious.

Instead of blaming your buyer who is exploiting you and returning the bare minimum to you so that they can buy another private jet you blame arla who have no involvement in your milk price at all.

Perhaps you should still thank arla. Because according to your logic if they werent setting the price your buyer would exploit you even further and pay you less because he could.

The funny thing is Arla holding the milk price down for Müller produces but we may have a 5ppl 13th payment!!!!!!! Heir Müller is having fun at your expense
What a joke people blaming Arla for their dairy’s price perhaps they are taking advantage of you and you should ask yourselves are they taking the pi€$

Not sure I would subscribe to Arla paying more than muller over the last 3 years would be interesting to see a true comparison with and without capital contributions/retail supplements. Both private companies and coops have their place the biggest difference is that coops can operate with big losses that a bank wouldn’t tolerate in a private company. Example what losses did Arla/ FM make across the full business in the last financial year? I suspect a huge number per farmer. If Meadow/Grahams or any other private company made those kind of losses the banks would shut them. I’m sure the coops employ some good employees but they all get a wage regardless of performance private business have to make profits private enterprises usually run rings round nationalised businesses. Hence why coops are not always the answer sometimes they get so large they breed inefficiency If all the farmers in Scotland formed a farming co operative and each farmer got paid a wage rather than the return off his/her labour on their own farm. I could imagine I would have less enthusiasm to get out of bed at 2 am to check that cow calving or work 24 hours to get silage before it poured down etc.

 

[bar718]

What are people’s thoughts on the effects of the commission saying they are going to start selling the milk powder in intervention in unreserved lots from the spring , just in time for the spring flush .
Oh and @jackrussell101 this is one you cannot blame on Arla [emoji23]

 

[sidjon]

What are people’s thoughts on the effects of the commission saying they are going to start selling the milk powder in intervention in unreserved lots from the spring , just in time for the spring flush .
Oh and @jackrussell101 this is one you cannot blame on Arla [emoji23]

Think that's why SMP dropped so much on GDT, wmp will likely hold and SMP will slip further until next year.

 

[dinderleat]

I'm going to ring the OFT and see what they have to say about it, probably naff all.

I wasn't being serious, but crack on record it mind, you might want to compile some evidence to back up your claims

 

[frederick]

What are people’s thoughts on the effects of the commission saying they are going to start selling the milk powder in intervention in unreserved lots from the spring , just in time for the spring flush .
Oh and @jackrussell101 this is one you cannot blame on Arla [emoji23]

If this is the outcome then it just shows why you should let the market rule.
Buying into intervention slowed the scaleback that was required. The stocks have overhung the market making a one sided recovery in butter.
If they really do release in spring they will also allow intervention prices to hit the floor.
If it really follows through with current european growth its simply best to not even speculate where spot May price could be.

 

[lazy farmer]

If this is the outcome then it just shows why you should let the market rule.
Buying into intervention slowed the scaleback that was required. The stocks have overhung the market making a one sided recovery in butter.
If they really do release in spring they will also allow intervention prices to hit the floor.
If it really follows through with current european growth its simply best to not even speculate where spot May price could be.

best hide the chq book and the password to BACs payments then.

 

[Kingofgrass]

@jackrussell101 why don't you leave muller join a market related price with the opportunity to forward sell? But don't moan when you get middle teens like 18months ago but then again you could of got 34pltr last month

 

[Sid]

What are people’s thoughts on the effects of the commission saying they are going to start selling the milk powder in intervention in unreserved lots from the spring , just in time for the spring flush .
Oh and @jackrussell101 this is one you cannot blame on Arla [emoji23]

Bloody stupid. They only way powder gets used without effecting the market is for the oil price to rise and opec countries to take up the slack

 

[O'Reilly]

@jackrussell101 why don't you leave muller join a market related price with the opportunity to forward sell? But don't moan when you get middle teens like 18months ago but then again you could of got 34pltr last month

Or join arla and bitch direct

 

[holstein654]

@jackrussell101 why don't you leave muller join a market related price with the opportunity to forward sell? But don't moan when you get middle teens like 18months ago but then again you could of got 34pltr last month

All prices are market related. The more the volatility increases prices at farm gate will move quicker nobody beats the market.

 

[farmer on a bike]

Not sure I would subscribe to Arla paying more than muller over the last 3 years would be interesting to see a true comparison with and without capital contributions/retail supplements. Both private companies and coops have their place the biggest difference is that coops can operate with big losses that a bank wouldn’t tolerate in a private company. Example what losses did Arla/ FM make across the full business in the last financial year? I suspect a huge number per farmer. If Meadow/Grahams or any other private company made those kind of losses the banks would shut them. I’m sure the coops employ some good employees but they all get a wage regardless of performance private business have to make profits private enterprises usually run rings round nationalised businesses. Hence why coops are not always the answer sometimes they get so large they breed inefficiency If all the farmers in Scotland formed a farming co operative and each farmer got paid a wage rather than the return off his/her labour on their own farm. I could imagine I would have less enthusiasm to get out of bed at 2 am to check that cow calving or work 24 hours to get silage before it poured down etc.

In total Arla didn't make a loss, it didn't because that would be a route to disaster. The profit us set at 2.8 to 3.2% of turnover. The milk prices set to achieve this. But Arla is made up of over 100 companies. Some of them will show losses, but the total will be in profit.