And then also if you could, please record the conversation and upload it to here, it would make the winter a bit more enjoyable
Milk Price Tracker
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Cows 'n grass
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- Modbury, South Devon
Wow.
Just to keep us all entertained please can you explain how my co-op is preventing herr Muller from paying you more.
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- South Molton
So who is highest in Europe? Muller or Arla?
Arla are the 4th largest milk processor in the world, I think Friesland campina are 6th. Muller 15th ish?
The thing that worries me is that Arla are just like a bigger version of First Milk and now they are wrecking our milk price by other companies just paying the same because they can get away with it.
Cows 'n grass
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- Modbury, South Devon
Just like first milk with their strong and ever growing brands, minimal brokering and strong focus on getting branded products out of Europe into growing dairy makers?
So if Arla didn't have a co-op presence in the UK and it was still just Milk Link who would probably have still been paying high twenties like FM how would this make your price higher?
It’s the currency smoothing which has dragged Arla s price and then everyone else’s price down from hitting 34p
Scholsey
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- Herefordshire
County milk 31p for September, 3.8bf 3.2p. Wonder how long it will stay there for!
Cows 'n grass
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- Modbury, South Devon
I still don't understand what's stopping Muller paying more though?
I think Arla's price in Euros is $36c. If Muller can pay 1.5c more than this in Germany then what's stopping them over here?
supercow
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- Dumfriesshire
Maybe looking after his fello country men. What rise did Arla get in November?
Cows 'n grass
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- Modbury, South Devon
No rise, staying the same at 32.3 base.
supercow
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- Dumfriesshire
That's a good price! So muller will be paying 32 pence in November? We are starting to tick more boxes with first milk and should be 30 pence October with a .5 rise in November
farmer on a bike
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@jackrussell101 is right in a sense. He is just a price taker. DMK are the biggest German co-op and are very commodity based and are hence currently paying a very high price (they also paid a very low price 18mths ago), so Muller in Germany pay a price to compete with that.
Arla are not as commodity based plus are being held back by poor prices in the UK market linked to the currency dropping over the last year plus the currency smoothing. This has allowed Muller to pay less and unfortunately, as a result sell at a lower price. Therefore Arla can't lift prices in the UK as much as we should be able too given the commodity markets.
Cuckoo's nest
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FOAB why do all UK buyers come out with excuses, there is a market out there and that is what should set the price . Prices everywhere are higher than the UK, you are all taking the Urine .
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- South Molton
I knew the answer before i asked. @jackrussell101 so why are Arla holding your price back in the UK but not in the of EU?
Cows 'n grass
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- Modbury, South Devon
I do understand it but I'd say it's as fair to blame DMK for not competing in the UK as it is to blame Arla for holding the price back.
cornishfarmer
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Think I read somewhere once that Arla spend 10% of turnover on R and D is this correct? If so do the new products earn what are spent on them?
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- South Molton
Eventually.
As with an investment payback takes time and not every "punt" works.