monkey metal mowers...

[Dave W]

now then...shopping on fleabay...class corto 165n....class wm165....pz170....or new talex,wirex.....sh samaz ,landmec....all about the same money....visually appear similar

late runner a fella km 167

The claas wm 165 is shaft driven rather than belt so should be a slightly better built machine.
The corto 165 I'd dare bet he's never tried it on a tractor so I'd want to see it running before purchase.

However all the vendors are small time machinery dealers who spend their time at junk sales so just assume they are all junk.

 

[Mursal]

You'd be better go to a main dealer and pay twice as much for their "junk"

 

[Dave W]

You'd be better go to a main dealer and pay twice as much for their "junk"

Why? It won't have any more warranty on it

 

[Mursal]

So the small dealer isn't so bad after all, then?

 

[Dave W]

Well certain people think they're bad.
Some are excellent.

 

[John 1594]

Just dont buy a Claas WM2.....

we did....its an ok mower with a hell of a cut....but its got its quirks, and its nothing like any other drum mower ive ever seen or used

 

[holywell farmer]

Just dont buy a Claas WM2.....

we did....its an ok mower with a hell of a cut....but its got its quirks, and its nothing like any other drum mower ive ever seen or used

would say drum mowers are dying out ?

 

[Selectamatic]

would say drum mowers are dying out ?

No.

 

[Mursal]

Though they can be heavy and leave a beard up the middle if the top link take a notion ..............

 

[John 1594]

Though they can be heavy and leave a beard up the middle if the top link take a notion ..............

I had that trouble with a kuhn disc mower, GMD44 Select i think it was

unless blades were perfect, and it was ran on its snout it often just started doing it in the middle of an otherwise perfect swath. Had to stop, lift it, let it clear, lower and carry on, perhaps would do it again for a few rounds

Claas drum mower never leaves a blade standing...understandable given the horrendous blade overlap...never seen a drum mower where you cant time the drums so they dont clash

 

[Mursal]

Some drivers dont even see it ..........

 

[spin cycle]

so......10yr old fella..or new 'monkey'.....similar price

 

[7610 super q]

so......10yr old fella..or new 'monkey'.....similar price

How many acres ? Same dilemma here. I'm starting to think monkey metal. Nothing quite like a brand new machine, that no previous owner has used to cut gorse with........

 

[spin cycle]

How many acres ? Same dilemma here. I'm starting to think monkey metal. Nothing quite like a brand new machine, that no previous owner has used to cut gorse with........

30-40 acs/yr...steadily driven...but shaky maintenance routine

 

[Mursal]

Local lad back a few years ago started taking in Chinese quads, they were identical to some of the main stream makers. Hopefully the mowers are better. A 20 year old main stream any day, because you have something to fix. But, I'm sure if you choose the right new mower you'll be fine and at least 12 months warranty.

 

[smcapstick]

Local lad back a few years ago started taking in Chinese quads, they were identical to some of the main stream makers. Hopefully the mowers are better. A 20 year old main stream any day, because you have something to fix. But, I'm sure if you choose the right new mower you'll be fine and at least 12 months warranty.

You mean... you see no difference between a Chinese ATV and a European mower?

 

[Red Fred]

You mean... you see no difference between a Chinese ATV and a European mower?

I often wonder how Polish or Turkish farmers get on if their domestic machines are supposedly poorly made. I would have thought conditions would be harder as the weather and soil can be tougher than ours and distances to the dealer much further. Do they really put up with an inferior product?

 

[8100]

I think a half tidy PZ and spend a couple of quid fettling it would be my choice ...but motorcycles and machines from China etc are getting a lot better now so

 

[smcapstick]

I often wonder how Polish or Turkish farmers get on if their domestic machines are supposedly poorly made. I would have thought conditions would be harder as the weather and soil can be tougher than ours and distances to the dealer much further. Do they really put up with an inferior product?

Of course not... because the machines are not inferior.

If somebody drives a 5' 6" drum mower with a 120HP tractor and drives along every road and 40 or 50KPH, is it the machine's fault if it breaks? Of course not.

 

[Red Fred]

Of course not... because the machines are not inferior.

If somebody drives a 5' 6" drum mower with a 120HP tractor and drives along every road and 40 or 50KPH, is it the machine's fault if it breaks? Of course not.

I agree! Chinese might be different as I believe they are directed in what they make for export markets so quality might not be as important, but it seems insulting to me to rubbish EU made products. They may be more basic, but that doesn't neccessarily make them shoddy. Look at the basic tractors like the old IH275s made until recently in India.
I bet Indian farmers are just as canny as we are or more so, having to operate in a harder environment.