Mounted Double Mole Plough Or Trailed ?

[Farmerwilson]

Looking at getting a double leg mole plough what's peoples views between a mounted or trailed.Cheers

 

[snarling bee]

I think that a twin leg mounted would probably break the linkage. We have a twin leg trailed Maidwell behind a quaddy, and very pleased with it. Can you even buy a twin leg mounted?

 

[Feldspar]

I think that a twin leg mounted would probably break the linkage. We have a twin leg trailed Maidwell behind a quaddy, and very pleased with it. Can you even buy a twin leg mounted?

I had a chat with Ron at Maidwell and he was pushing more towards the mounted twin leg because it takes less hp to pull due to weight transfer.

2 Leg Mounted 2m spacing - Maidwell Moler

 

[Farmerwilson]

I think that a twin leg mounted would probably break the linkage. We have a twin leg trailed Maidwell behind a quaddy, and very pleased with it. Can you even buy a twin leg mounted?

evening , yes most people that make mole ploughs produce a double leg mounted ,farm next door has one a proforge agri linc and seems too make a good job and pulls well,but like u say link arms worry me but ppl seem to think they ok

 

[Farmerwilson]

I had a chat with Ron at Maidwell and he was pushing more towards the mounted twin leg because it takes less hp to pull due to weight transfer.

2 Leg Mounted 2m spacing - Maidwell Moler

That’s good to hear the mounted is easier to pull we would put it on a MT765c

 

[Feldspar]

That’s good to hear the mounted is easier to pull we would put it on a MT765c

I was thinking of putting it one on a 775e, which I thought should cope fairly well. Would possibly even pull a trailed. Whether a 765c would run in less than ideal conditions with two legs, I wasn't quite sure.

 

[Nearly]

Saw one at local fabricators today.
Will take some pulling!

 

[spikeislander]

I sold a twin leg mounted one that we converted from a mcavoy, we added skids and it was really tidy.
The main reason I sold it was that most of our fields when draining we couldn’t address the ditch square so it was hard on the linkage if one dropped into work before the other one iyswim?
In the end I’ve bought a new maidwell which although slower I suppose , it will go on all tractors and we will pull it easy.
Another issue we had was although going up field was ok ( jd 8345rt) on some farms we have a wide grass margin in between the field and ditch which had been well compacted over the years and we struggled to get grip on this , once through it was fine.

 

[Feldspar]

I sold a twin leg mounted one that we converted from a mcavoy, we added skids and it was really tidy.
The main reason I sold it was that most of our fields when draining we couldn’t address the ditch square so it was hard on the linkage if one dropped into work before the other one iyswim?
In the end I’ve bought a new maidwell which although slower I suppose , it will go on all tractors and we will pull it easy.
Another issue we had was although going up field was ok ( jd 8345rt) on some farms we have a wide grass margin in between the field and ditch which had been well compacted over the years and we struggled to get grip on this , once through it was fine.

Ah, these are both a bit worrying as we will definitely encounter both of these scenarios.

 

[john432]

Got a twin mole plough conversion legs for my Stocks/Spalding's flat lift. The old Track Marshall pulls it ok

 

[yellow belly]

If you need more Grip then add weight to the tractor
in my experience 14 tonnes minimum tractor weight for twin leg
7 tonne single leg
also only mole when the moling depth is wet enough

 

[Brisel]

Just make sure the operator doesn't decide to use draft control...

 

[Salopian_Will]

Just make sure the operator doesn't decide to use draft control...

Which is why I am surprised that manufacturers are pushing 2 leg mounted. They should be set up with a dead pull with minimal weight transfer or only marginally more than a trailed.

 

[Feldspar]

Which is why I am surprised that manufacturers are pushing 2 leg mounted. They should be set up with a dead pull with minimal weight transfer or only marginally more than a trailed.

That's very interesting. Speaking to Maidwell, who I read on here were the people to talk to with a lot of knowledge over many years, they said the mounted ones take less pulling because they put more weight on the tractor and so give better grip. They said a 430 hp 19t crawler might struggle with a twin leg trailed, saying that most of these were pulled by Quadtracs and 800 series Challenger type tractors.

 

[Whitewalker]

Got a twin mole plough conversion legs for my Stocks/Spalding's flat lift. The old Track Marshall pulls it ok

Any pics of the track Marshall? I thought they looked great

 

[Salopian_Will]

That's very interesting. Speaking to Maidwell, who I read on here were the people to talk to with a lot of knowledge over many years, they said the mounted ones take less pulling because they put more weight on the tractor and so give better grip. They said a 430 hp 19t crawler might struggle with a twin leg trailed, saying that most of these were pulled by Quadtracs and 800 series Challenger type tractors.

Well I would trust Maidwell's view over mine! However, I would be realistic as to how much easier it will be to pull compared to a trailed.

A good example is all of the mounted 3m mounted trios around the country on 170hp - 220hp tractors with the benefits of draft control. To go to a 3.5m+ trailed they are all on 300hp + as they are a dead pull.

 

[Robt]

Whatever you do go for. I'd ensure you have a full set of front idler weigths on your 765. Without them you'll struggle.

 

[tr250]

Just make sure the operator doesn't decide to use draft control...

It’s the geometry of the link arms the lower link arms are very low so generally set at their lowest point possible and the pins in the float position so that even with the draft control in position setting when you let the clutch out it sits the back of the tractor down and squabs the tyres

 

[Brisel]

I was thinking more of the mole being pulled up by draft control, thereby fouling up the gradient for the mole channel.

 

[Farmerwilson]

Whatever you do go for. I'd ensure you have a full set of front idler weigths on your 765. Without them you'll struggle.

yes full weights all round rob