Multi Sire Beef

Cornish bob

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Use 3 together it's ok if they are not evenly matched,usually put a big sim in with a blue and a young trainee.they usually only fight if they think they stand a chance! It also makes calving interesting you never know what's coming
 

Doc

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Livestock Farmer
Use of multiple bulls in large cow mobs is common in Aus, NZ, USA and Argentina. They don’t have the time and resources to split each bulling group into nice little packets.
But they are probably doing it all wrong though...
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Dad regularly used to AI repeat breeders with straws from several different bulls if that counts, like a low tech version of the ‘fertility plus’ semen that most companies were selling at the time. It was always a bit of a lottery as to what arrived at the other end, but conception rates were certainly improved on some very stubborn breeders.

Presumably you’d get the same effect from several bulls breeding with one cow?
 

unlacedgecko

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
Use of multiple bulls in large cow mobs is common in Aus, NZ, USA and Argentina. They don’t have the time and resources to split each bulling group into nice little packets.
But they are probably doing it all wrong though...

Yes I’m aware of the overseas experience. But would such an approach work in UK on rotational grazing system? Small fields so less opportunity for bulls to escape each other.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
I'd be interested to hear of anyone using 4 or 5 bulls in a single mob of cows.
We will next month
Yes I’m aware of the overseas experience. But would such an approach work in UK on rotational grazing system? Small fields so less opportunity for bulls to escape each other.
Our cells are .08ha, can't see it being any issue

So yes, def doing it wrong
 

Farmer Fin

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Arable Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
Not saying there is a correct approach. Negative to having multiple bulls in a group is the pecking order and fighting. There is some evidence they are more likely to serve the same cows, so less efficient. If you have a dominant bull who is a Jaffa you will still have empty cows. I think for multiples bull groups to work you need lots of space and bulls who are reared together and stay together all year.

The counter to this is why we do single sire and swap through the season.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
up to this year, we run our bulls together, they sort their selves out , to establish a pecking order, and usually works well, as dairy, we do swap them round daily. As an experiment, this year, after our dairy AI, we used 2 straws of beef, AA and BB per cow, will be interesting to see the result. This year, we have had bull disasters, 2 went down with TB, we lost 2 young bulls to a freak accident, and, because of this, we kept 1 we should not have done, he simply got nastier, and noisier, by the day, so he stayed for 1st 3 weeks, and outed, luckily, the remaining Hereford, hasn't had to much to do, as we have a pretty tight calving pattern !
 

AftonShepherd

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Ayrshire
Not exactly what the OP is asking, but seem to remember a photo in the Scottish Farmer a few years back with a set of triplet calves that looked very clearly one each of limousin, simmental and charolais.
 

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