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Gong Farmer

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BASIS
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Glos
The only benefit from N before the standard timings has been when tiller retention is paramount (late sown crops that go into stem extension before finishing tillering). I can see some logic with hybrid barley in the SW but the earlier doses I mention were early Feb rather than late Feb, not mid Jan.

To be honest if hybrid barley needs this sort of left-field agronomy it's not worth bothering with.
 

teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Am I confident in the long run statistical fact? Yup. If we get zero rain in January would I expect February to be drier? Nope. Will I be applying fert in January? Nope. Will I be applying fert in Feb? Quite likely but currently can't be certain.
 

teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
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Lincolnshire
If I could accurately predict the weather for valentine's week in the UK a month ahead, I'd be richer than being a farmer.

In a pleasing twist, Mrs teslacoils has booked valentine's weekend to go to London on a campanology trip, so some flexibility now on the fert spreading. NV I am not going on this trip.

Currently I can't think of a better January, and infact late December. It's so nice I may even go.....outside.
 
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Hindsight

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Lincolnshire
If I could accurately predict the weather for valentine's week in the UK a month ahead, I'd be richer than being a farmer.

In a pleasing twist, Mrs teslacoils has booked valentine's weekend to go to London on a campanology trip, so some flexibility now on the fert spreading. NV I am not going on this trip.

Currently I can't think of a better January, and infact late December. It's so nice I may even go.....outside.

Campanology, how quintessentially English. Nothing on earth beats listening to a peal of bells. A truly magnificent experience. Your wife appears to be a true Romantic.
 

robbie

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BASIS
Campanology, how quintessentially English. Nothing on earth beats listening to a peal of bells. A truly magnificent experience. Your wife appears to be a true Romantic.
When I read @teslacoils post I immediately got confused and was wrongly thinking of Scientology 🤦🤦🤦
I knew it was a big thing amongst some celebrity yanks but didn't realise it had reached as far as Lincolnshire.😂😂😂
 

bankrupt

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EX17/20
got confused and was wrongly thinking of Scientology 🤦🤦🤦
Campanology was big in the 60s, when barley was £615/ton off the combine in today's money and Income Tax 98%.

 

Two Tone

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Mixed Farmer
Hybrid WB crops with now just the right number of tillers will need to keep them going through February.

It's all in Syngenta's blueprint.
Yeah!
Good old Syngenta, …..who want you to put that much N on early so they can sell you their expensive Modus PGR to keep it standing. They’d sell you their Grandmothers in a wheelbarrow if they could!
Use less N, no need for Modus (just CCC) and end up with decent sized grains instead of a heap of pine needles!

But put some N on in Feb to prevent the crop going yellow and losing too many tillers.
 

robbie

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BASIS
Campanology was big in the 60s, when barley was £615/ton off the combine in today's money and Income Tax 98%.

My boys(7 and 11) love Carry on camping and will sit and watch the whole thing just to see Barbara Windsors bra fling off😂😂😂😂😂
 
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gone

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Location
Carlow Ireland
Plenty of folks on here with some miles on the clock will no doubt remember years ago when throwing on some N on OSR on a good frosty day in January was considered 'cutting edge'.
Old enough to remember putting on some N on winter barley in the autumn and then spraying it for mildew in early November.
I would like to get a little early N on backward or thin crops of winter barley in early Feb but thankfully all crops are thick, lush and green this year, so hopefully will not need to go till late Feb/early March.
 
Old enough to remember putting on some N on winter barley in the autumn and then spraying it for mildew in early November. I would like to get a little early N on backward or thin crops of winter barley in early Feb but thankfully all crops are thick, lush and green this year, so hopefully will not need to go till late Feb/early March.

I seem to remember having a discussion about this kind of thing before. Spraying crops with fungicide before Christmas etc, was always too cynical for that.
 

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