National trust farms.

[Frank-the-Wool]

Below I copied from the ONS table but it has not come out very well.
The only area below £400 per week is retail, hotel and restaurant and most of those in this area are shutting due to lack of labour!

Average Weekly Earnings (AWE) (£ per week) May 21 to July 2021 May 22 to July 22 % Change (3- month average) Economy 542 571 5.2% Private Sector 534 567 6.0% Public Sector 579 592 2.0% Services 529 558 5.4% Manufacturing 609 636 4.2% Construction 636 672 5.4% Wholesaling, retailing, hotels & restaurants 355 382 7.0% Source: Office for National Statistics (ONS). Figures may not add up due to rounding. Please note, figures quoted relate to GB and excludes bonus and overtime payments.

 

[Sid]

Average Weekly Earnings (AWE) (£ per week) May 21 to July 2021 May 22 to July 22 % Change (3- month average)

Economy 542 571 5.2%
Private Sector 534 567 6.0%
Public Sector 579 592 2.0%
Services 529 558 5.4%
Manufacturing 609 636 4.2%
Construction 636 672 5.4%
Hotel etc 355 382 7.0%


Source: Office for National Statistics (ONS). Figures may not add up due to rounding. Please note, figures quoted relate to GB and excludes bonus and overtime payments.

Hopefully that edit helps.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Does anyone still work for £403.00 per week and be expected to work evenings and weekends.
No way you would get anyone in this area for those pay rates!!

The latest ONS figures show median pay in Torridge was £1,745 per month in August [2022] – up from £1,617 a year before and the lowest in the UK.

That puts the median wage @ about £436 a week.

 

[Sid]

The latest ONS figures show median pay in Torridge was £1,745 per month in August [2022] – up from £1,617 a year before and the lowest in the UK.

That puts the median wage @ about £436 a week.

Not exactly commuter belt country is it?
Grows grass though.

 

[Coximus]

Plenty of jobs being advertised at over £10 per hour and still no one takes them up down here.
If anyone wants a job working flexible hours at £10.03 then send them to me please!

Would you work for that? you couldnt live for that in the slums of leeds..... In many areas of the country the cost of living is now over £550 a week before you even clothe yourself.

 

[glasshouse]

National trust now wailing at ELMs failure and govt u turn

 

[Coximus]

National trust now wailing at ELMs failure and govt u turn

Good, ELMS was bascially designed by eco warrior pressure groups, the rates and design of the scheme was such that only huge landowners would beneit, small farms would loose out but still be bound by unworkable rules.

Im currently involved in habitat creation for biodiversity offsetting - Elms would requires a perscripted method of management that would not deliver any benefits as the management required is not suited to the site.... it is suited to an office based ecologists idea of what is needed to create a meadow...... A chocolate box urban interpretation.
ELMS existed to "look green" and to placate major campaign groups, and save money. The daft thing is, they have finally got a working system in BPS....
They could simply continue the run down of payment rates to 0, and split greening in to a 3 tier system, using the same system as BPS and the land use elements to reward target land uses..... Not enough grass in an area - farms in that area can get an extra xyz/HA for putting a ley in. Greening tiers would work brilliantly, giving farmers the economic freedom to run intensively on the best land, but reward diverse use on different land - and it doesnt have to be things like planting a forest....
Anyone whos planted a herbal ley knows the good they can do - same yield as a ryegrass ley, but no Nitrogen put on for 3 years, and the amount of insect life is to be seen to be belived - better than near by wildlife trust sites by a huge margin. The knock on effect is a huge increase in bird numbers feeding on the insects.... healthier soil - all while saving N cost and still producing a feed capable of sustaining sheep.

Farming really is part of the solution not the problem - support it right. Obviously on the reverse I do think that rather than banning and fighting herbicide use, instead it should require logging on the BPS system with an uploaded photo justifying use.... No problem if you dont want to share that info, but you cant claim high tiers of support without it, giving you the freedom to choose. I have been herbicide free for 4 years (admittedly helped along with glyph in previous years, and it will always be in my toolbox) - But careful management removes most of the need for me.

 

[bluepower]

National trust now wailing at ELMs failure and govt u turn

Not feeling too sorry for them. I think that NT RSPB etc will lobby heavily. Might just spoil their plans. Maybe they will think straight when there is no food on the shelves?

 

[gone up the hill]

So @Frank-the-Wool would you as a young person with a family to support and paying rent/ Mortgage etc work for less than £10 hour full time and end up taking home about £17,000 at best after tax is deducted??

Because i can tell you now that is far below what anyone can live on in the current world with housing/energy/fuel etc costs as high as they currently are!

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

So @Frank-the-Wool would you as a young person with a family to support and paying rent/ Mortgage etc work for less than £10 hour full time and end up taking home about £17,000 at best after tax is deducted??

Because i can tell you now that is far below what anyone can live on in the current world with housing/energy/fuel etc costs as high as they currently are!

I am glad you agree with me now!
I am sorry to hear you live in the poorest part of the UK.

 

[gone up the hill]

I am glad you agree with me now!
I am sorry to hear you live in the poorest part of the UK.

Wages are crap across most parts of the UK in many industry's.

Reality is that the Min wage needs to be at least £15 hour now!

 

[Sid]

Wages are crap across most parts of the UK in many industry's.

Reality is that the Min wage needs to be at least £15 hour now!

Absolutely do not make NMW to that level.

Pay people what they are worth/earning capacity. Some "workers" are not worth £5/hr.

Some of the lowest paid are care workers, looking after the elderly.
You have to have a certain skill set to be able to care for that sector of society. Yet they are so poorly renumerated.

In this country majority get paid depending on "qualifications" not skills.

Teachers being one. Not paid on results but on years of "experience". Worst teacher in my kids school was the one that was one of the longest qualified!

 

[glasshouse]

Absolutely do not make NMW to that level.

Pay people what they are worth/earning capacity. Some "workers" are not worth £5/hr.

Some of the lowest paid are care workers, looking after the elderly.
You have to have a certain skill set to be able to care for that sector of society. Yet they are so poorly renumerated.

In this country majority get paid depending on "qualifications" not skills.

Teachers being one. Not paid on results but on years of "experience". Worst teacher in my kids school was the one that was one of the longest qualified!

People get paid according to the level of sh!t heaped on them
The more sh!t, the less they get paid
Nurses, farmers, care workers are paid crap because the bosses know they cant strike

 

[Formatted]

National Trust looking for a tenant for a farm in Northumberland but you have to go on a TV program and compete against 6 other families for the privilege.

 

[7610 super q]

Matt Baker..........Our new tenanted working for nowt Cotswold farm in the Yorkshire Dales...........
Watched his latest effort the other night. Definitely aimed at Countryfile folks me thinks...........

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Taking on a National Trust Tenancy
On Gallows Hill Farm

How appropriate.

 

[glasshouse]

Taking on a National Trust Tenancy
On Gallows Hill Farm

How appropriate.

I am a celebrity, except theres no exit

 

[slackjawedyokel]

National Trust looking for a tenant for a farm in Northumberland but you have to go on a TV program and compete against 6 other families for the privilege.

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Damn. I think that’s the farm a guy from near here who got evicted earlier this year (due to the place being sold) was after

 

[Anymulewilldo]

National Trust looking for a tenant for a farm in Northumberland but you have to go on a TV program and compete against 6 other families for the privilege.

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So they want someone with lots of money they can invest in the farm while the NT suck as much as they possibly can out of it??

 

[Jackov Altraids]

So they want someone with lots of money they can invest in the farm while the NT suck as much as they possibly can out of it??

It does make you wonder about the criteria they will use to choose the tenant.

The one who offers the most money, the best farmer, the one who 'is most aligned to the values of the NT, or whoever they think will 'make the best telly'?