Naylor’s Cabbage Factory

Bald Rick

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£20m to build a factory to use cabbages to replace soya and pea protein in non-meat “meat” products and looking in to using cabbage fibres for clothing.
 

Bald Rick

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meh....very niche.....brassicas need a wide rotation so never really going to challenge meat production....plus it needs the decent arable land and irrigation........a lot of meat is produced on pasture land that couldn't produce food any other way

good luck to them in the meantime :)

If they can demonstrate it works, it is probably going to be a lot cheaper than lab grown frakenfood so others would be attracted to cabbage growing.
 

Bald Rick

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Another point from the Times article which stimulated me was the fact that currently they waste a lot of the cabbage as supermarkets only want the white inner part for coleslaw so there is a very high wastage. This factory would use the whole cabbage
 

DrWazzock

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Lincolnshire
Personally I see it as the kind of innovation that we need and it should be welcomed. One slight drawback is it’s still possibly reliant on big doses of synthetic ammonium nitrate (as most of ag is) but maybe they can recycle some of the nutrients back to land as part of the process?
If they can develop the process to extract protein from self nitrifying crops such as clover, beans or mixed plantings then it could be a very good thing. I hope they get on well with it.
 

Lowland1

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Personally I see it as the kind of innovation that we need and it should be welcomed. One slight drawback is it’s still possibly reliant on big doses of synthetic ammonium nitrate (as most of ag is) but maybe they can recycle some of the nutrients back to land as part of the process?
If they can develop the process to extract protein from self nitrifying crops such as clover, beans or mixed plantings then it could be a very good thing. I hope they get on well with it.
Branston Potatoes are putting up a factory to do similar from potatoes it really does beg the question why do people want their proteins manufactured when they can get them naturally. Just because the origins are natural by the time they've been through the manufacturing processes they will be a long way from what they started as.
 

Exfarmer

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Bury St Edmunds


£20m to build a factory to use cabbages to replace soya and pea protein in non-meat “meat” products and looking in to using cabbage fibres for clothing.
The fibres used by these manufacturers of alternative fibres such as bamboo, generally convert the fibre first to a polyester. so it may be Bamboo, cabbage or whatever but at the end of the day it is just as bad for the environment as any other synthetic
 

Bald Rick

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Anglesey
The fibres used by these manufacturers of alternative fibres such as bamboo, generally convert the fibre first to a polyester. so it may be Bamboo, cabbage or whatever but at the end of the day it is just as bad for the environment as any other synthetic

I know little about the onward process but it is interesting that more and more “waste” plant fibres are being converted to textiles such as pineapple


And bananas

 

DrWazzock

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Branston Potatoes are putting up a factory to do similar from potatoes it really does beg the question why do people want their proteins manufactured when they can get them naturally. Just because the origins are natural by the time they've been through the manufacturing processes they will be a long way from what they started as.
I don’t know the answer to that but I’ll guess it could be that we don’t have a big enough gut to extract enough protein from raw or cooked cabbages alone to meet our needs so we still need to eat meat, eggs etc. I would presume the factory is pre digesting and concentrating the protein for us so then perhaps we don’t need to eat meat to top up our protein requirements.
It’s all a bit 6 and half a dozen as far I’m concerned. Why displace meat grown on clover which supplies its own nitrogen with no natural gas needed, with crops that presently rely on irreplaceable natural gas as the nitrogen source? But anyway, if it keeps folks happy and busy then good luck to them.
 

Lowland1

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I'm assuming they've solved the labour issue when it comes to harvesting their raw cabbage?
When I was in that part of the world last month it most certainly looked like it. I’ve never seen so many people, telehandlers and boxes in a field at one time. I was very jealous.
You use dutch white cabbages for coleslaw, they have hardly any green outer leaves, wastage would be minimal.
We grow a lot of white cabbage and that’s the case you strip a few outer leaves and that’s it the rest is edible. Even with a 5 kilo cabbage I doubt you’d lose more than a couple of hundred grammes of leaf.
 

Bald Rick

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Here is the article

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There is quite a bit in there about reducing meat consumption too

Its a de facto government policy it would appear fronted by Patrick Valance by the look of things
 

Exfarmer

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Bury St Edmunds
I know little about the onward process but it is interesting that more and more “waste” plant fibres are being converted to textiles such as pineapple


And bananas

All these products can take hundreds of years to break down and are nearly as bad for the environment as any plastic. They may come from s natural source but after treatment they are nothing like the original.
 

DrWazzock

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Lincolnshire
It is about reducing meat consumption but I don’t think we need to worry when demand is more likely to outstrip supply even with plant factory derived proteins on the menu.
 

Exfarmer

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Bury St Edmunds
Here is the article

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There is quite a bit in there about reducing meat consumption too

Its a de facto government policy it would appear fronted by Patrick Valance by the look of things
A point that is completely missed by journalists but would be of great interest to any stockman or woman is the quality of the protein.
Of course for either cattle and sheep protein quality only really is a concern for animals working very hard such as a high yielding dairy cow since ruminants can generally generate whatever they need in these terms.
However pig and chicken producers know protein quality is critical particularly to young animals and I dont see them queuing up for buying cabbage waste. Yet this company and many of its ilk combined with numerous journalists are promoting cabbage protein as suitable for young children!
 

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Five nature-recovery projects spanning nearly 100,000ha across the West Midlands, Cambridgeshire, the Peak District, Norfolk and Somerset have been announced by the government and Natural England today (Thursday, May 26).

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All five projects will make a significant contribution towards the national delivery of the international commitment to protect at least 30% of land and...
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