New cattle handling shed

[farmerman]

Nice job

 

[Turboman]

Excelent job, im hoping to do something similar this year. Have you a drafting gate sorted? im looking at a wedge shaped gate to shed in two directions and once cattle have passed the shedding gate they cant turn around and come back through it into the "safe working man area"

 

[Turboman]

what are your plans for cattle loading onto trailer/lorry? some people say run them through the crush in single file but I have not tried this yet.

 

[young bull]

Excelent job, im hoping to do something similar this year. Have you a drafting gate sorted? im looking at a wedge shaped gate to shed in two directions and once cattle have passed the shedding gate they cant turn around and come back through it into the "safe working man area"

what are your plans for cattle loading onto trailer/lorry? some people say run them through the crush in single file but I have not tried this yet.

Haven't got one sorted yet put the plan is to have it so that they can go left. Ack into the shed through the first gate where we let them in or right and round the other side of the crush into the pens at the front.
We are eventually going to put a concrete loading dock on the left hand bay but at the minute we just open the gate and back the trailer to and trap the gate with the loadall if that all makes sense

 

[aled1590]

We load cattle straight from race single file, but on occasions from the pen in shed thats width of trailer. Much easier from the race, less shouting and no alkathene pipes needed. Better for man and animal.

 

[JMTHORNLEY]

This is the tits, well impressed with it. I like to make everything on farm myself also, I'm seriously envious!!

 

[dannewhouse]

if you fill the holding area with cattle can you "shove" from behind by using gates to stop them returning or do you need to "force" in say 5s with the farcing pen to get them down the race?

I plan to put batches of 30 wild ish limmys through mine (yet to be made) and don't want to have to split them with a forcing gate so was thinking if I had 8ft pens leading to forcing curve I could get them forewards and keep shutting another 8ft pen stopping them reversing so the front ones would be near forced around the curve?

 

[Pan mixer]

if you fill the holding area with cattle can you "shove" from behind by using gates to stop them returning or do you need to "force" in say 5s with the farcing pen to get them down the race?

I plan to put batches of 30 wild ish limmys through mine (yet to be made) and don't want to have to split them with a forcing gate so was thinking if I had 8ft pens leading to forcing curve I could get them forewards and keep shutting another 8ft pen stopping them reversing so the front ones would be near forced around the curve?

I used to think that shoving a big group was efficient but have decided that a small group that all fits in the next box?race along the way is easier.

A big group can shove back in a big way.

Bud box works well - on the utube videos anyway, mine is still in my head although a tentative start has been made.

 

[Gulli]

Always small groups. If you cram the pens full it only takes one animal to turn the wrong way and you're stuck. Smaller groups are easier to move animals from outside

 

[Thick Farmer]

if you fill the holding area with cattle can you "shove" from behind by using gates to stop them returning or do you need to "force" in say 5s with the farcing pen to get them down the race?

I plan to put batches of 30 wild ish limmys through mine (yet to be made) and don't want to have to split them with a forcing gate so was thinking if I had 8ft pens leading to forcing curve I could get them forewards and keep shutting another 8ft pen stopping them reversing so the front ones would be near forced around the curve?

Push them in with a Heston bale on the front of a telehandler.

 

[dannewhouse]

Push them in with a Heston bale on the front of a telehandler.

be very expensive though, tele handlers aren't cheap! neither is straw apparently!

I get them off there bedded area and lock them on the passage 15ft x 30ft just wondered if I shoved them into 8ft square pens wether I could be at the back with a gate and put enough pressure for front ones to go up start of single file race. its not normally a struggle to get them moving its stopping them backing up, a man with a stick is nothing like a heavy gate even though your only pushing it.

 

[dannewhouse]

regards the smaller group points I can see what you mean but how to divide a pen of 30 lim x. I want a race that can hold the lot at once so I can go through them and happens pull the 5 I want to send in out of them?

1 thought would be to have a complete circle of a forcing pen with 2 gates?

 

[Gulli]

You could just build a race to hold them all...
Or a series of gates that you can close across behind them as they move up a bigger pen. If that makes sense?

Get the cow flow right and they won't back up

 

[dannewhouse]

You could just build a race to hold them all...
Or a series of gates that you can close across behind them as they move up a bigger pen. If that makes sense?

Get the cow flow right and they won't back up

that's what I meant a series of gates that I can shut as they move up in the race collecting pens
plan is 3 9ft x 9ft pens then a forcing pen rotationg them around 180 degrees to single file and back to crush.

a race to hold 30 single file would be a fare length!

a local farmer told me not to remove the drystone wall behind shed so I could create a long race down back of shed, I'm still glad I pulled it out and put the back of shed inline with it! blooming wall would be down more than up!!!

 

[Gulli]

that's what I meant a series of gates that I can shut as they move up in the race collecting pens
plan is 3 9ft x 9ft pens then a forcing pen rotationg them around 180 degrees to single file and back to crush.

a race to hold 30 single file would be a fare length!

a local farmer told me not to remove the drystone wall behind shed so I could create a long race down back of shed, I'm still glad I pulled it out and put the back of shed inline with it! blooming wall would be down more than up!!!

Can you fit them all in the 3 pens? Put in a walkway so you can drive them from above.

If you wanted to/had money that you would otherwise set fire too you could put walkways across the top so you can shut the gates behind them without getting in the pen.
Or build a backing gate that moves up with the stock like on a dairy collecting yard

 

[General-Lee]

Push them in with a Heston bale on the front of a telehandler.

Burning Heston?

 

[dannewhouse]

Can you fit them all in the 3 pens? Put in a walkway so you can drive them from above.

If you wanted to/had money that you would otherwise set fire too you could put walkways across the top so you can shut the gates behind them without getting in the pen.
Or build a backing gate that moves up with the stock like on a dairy collecting yard

possibly not, I do have a little more room than that but not much and it would need to be cleared so I could return non-wanted stock to their pen

I didn't want to end up stick wielding and shouting over gate tops but it would probably set a few off going up the chute

are the backing up gates any good? or best put sliding door at start of single file part?

 

[Gulli]

I'd go for a sliding door (or two) depending how long the race is.
Walkways alongside the race/pens are great as you don't have the option of sticking your arm in between bars-- good way of getting hurt. Much easier to drive cattle from above too.

There's some good set ups around and plenty of reading on the net for getting the cow flow right. Do it right first time if you can

 

[organicguy]

I used to think that shoving a big group was efficient but have decided that a small group that all fits in the next box?race along the way is easier.

A big group can shove back in a big way.

Bud box works well - on the utube videos anyway, mine is still in my head although a tentative start has been made.

We just made a bud box and curved race. All tied up with string and tech screws at present but it worked brilliantly, sometimes 2 and 3, sometimes just openned the gate and they followed in. Now to make it permanent with a one way gate at the end of the curve. Just trying to find made up curved race, 3.5 m radius, 90 degree turn?

 

[Turboman]

Few ideas here guys