New Fendt 724 issues

[TelesnaAg]

I know it doesn’t help but the 6.6 sisu in the 7614 rear seal is not leaking .

Rear mains are hard work to engineer solution, tractors engines being solid mount to the rest of the tractor the torque flex goes out through the crank rather than the rubber engine mounts like a car or even some of the older combines still had rubber on one side.

if you get it back go easy on sudden engine demand which you shouldn’t really get on a fendt, let it run in a while and then you might have a win.

combine engines commonly do rear mains, especially those with 3 stage electronic throttle speeds, JD is bad for it, hit the button and fairly shove it into it and thing is bolted solid to rails, will always leak.

fendts are heavy as well so there’s no give for that crank.

Ant…

 

[Clive]

Your not working yours hard though so 10k hrs shouldnt be a big ask, lot of contractors around here ploughing/ combi drilling in heavier ground with them and getting problems, one guy i know has had 3 fendts now and either new engine or transmission needed in each

true - pulling 12m drills is light work really


But yes, that why I buy new, I know how badly some machines are treated !

 

[lloyd]

That's fine but your prices are 2.5 years out if date !

 

[kiwi pom]

true - pulling 12m drills is light work really


But yes, that why I buy new, I know how badly some machines are treated !

What sort of issues do you have with them?
I remember something about a turbo problem, and I've got it in my head that one has had a transmission? I do get people mixed up though so apologies if it's not you.

 

[icanshootwell]

The way i see it is Fendt seem to be the price setter, the last few years have seen price hiked to unbelievable levels, new models bring yet more price hikes and more hp even though we did,t want any more hp, your having it, and you're going to pay for it. Still happy with 160hp, remind me what series model i need for that one.

 

[daveydiesel1]

The way i see it is Fendt seem to be the price setter, the last few years have seen price hiked to unbelievable levels, new models bring yet more price hikes and more hp even though we did,t want any more hp, your having it, and you're going to pay for it. Still happy with 160hp, remind me what series model i need for that one.

A 716

 

[yorkie]

The way i see it is Fendt seem to be the price setter, the last few years have seen price hiked to unbelievable levels, new models bring yet more price hikes and more hp even though we did,t want any more hp, your having it, and you're going to pay for it. Still happy with 160hp, remind me what series model i need for that one.

516

 

[Richard Smyth]

The way i see it is Fendt seem to be the price setter, the last few years have seen price hiked to unbelievable levels, new models bring yet more price hikes and more hp even though we did,t want any more hp, your having it, and you're going to pay for it. Still happy with 160hp, remind me what series model i need for that one.

No one making you buy big horsepower. Everyone still building sub 100 hp in various spec levels.

Most people have been asking for a 728 though so not sure where that comment comes from.

 

[icanshootwell]

No one making you buy big horsepower. Everyone still building sub 100 hp in various spec levels.

Most people have been asking for a 728 though so not sure where that comment comes from.

But the 728 is a new badged 800 series, the old 700 series was a medium size hp tractor, were people also asking for a price increase as well.

 

[oil barron]

But the 728 is a new badged 800 series, the old 700 series was a medium size hp tractor, were people also asking for a price increase as well.

And the 724 was a re-badged old style 820. Fendt is going to force you in to a 4 banger under 200hp.

 

[Richard Smyth]

But the 728 is a new badged 800 series, the old 700 series was a medium size hp tractor, were people also asking for a price increase as well.

And the gen 6 700 is still available. Not going anywhere. What’s the issue.

 

[mf7480]

yes running to 10k - its buying quality german engineering/ owning from new, having them dealer serviced on the dot, same skilled / mature driver’s all their life and knowing they have had an easy life on combinable crops with no mud or heavy draft work that gives me confidence to do that hopefully without any major issues

in the months we are busy we put 250-350hrs on these machines, i can’t afford for them to be in a workshop in drilling, harvesting or spraying season

why would anyone sell a 1000 or 2000hr or even a 3000hr old tractor ? ……… because it’s been trouble most likely !

Would you be tempted to sell a tractor with 2000-3000 hours if they offered you what you'd paid for it new 2 years ago?

 

[ollie989898]

Your not working yours hard though so 10k hrs shouldnt be a big ask, lot of contractors around here ploughing/ combi drilling in heavier ground with them and getting problems, one guy i know has had 3 fendts now and either new engine or transmission needed in each

How many direct drills have you pulled with 240hp?

In some conditions I would say a 6m drill can be a big ask of a 300hp tractor, let alone 8 or 10 or 12 metres.

 

[ollie989898]

Would you be tempted to sell a tractor with 2000-3000 hours if they offered you what you'd paid for it new 2 years ago?

Surely this would depend on cashflow and other considerations? You would still need to find the cost difference for a new one?

 

[Fendtbro]

I know it doesn’t help but the 6.6 sisu in the 7614 rear seal is not leaking . Rear mains are hard work to engineer solution, tractors engines being solid mount to the rest of the tractor the torque flex goes out through the crank rather than the rubber engine mounts like a car or even some of the older combines still had rubber on one side. if you get it back go easy on sudden engine demand which you shouldn’t really get on a fendt, let it run in a while and then you might have a win. combine engines commonly do rear mains, especially those with 3 stage electronic throttle speeds, JD is bad for it, hit the button and fairly shove it into it and thing is bolted solid to rails, will always leak. fendts are heavy as well so there’s no give for that crank. Ant…

I know it doesn’t help but the 6.6 sisu in the 7614 rear seal is not leaking .

Rear mains are hard work to engineer solution, tractors engines being solid mount to the rest of the tractor the torque flex goes out through the crank rather than the rubber engine mounts like a car or even some of the older combines still had rubber on one side.

if you get it back go easy on sudden engine demand which you shouldn’t really get on a fendt, let it run in a while and then you might have a win.

combine engines commonly do rear mains, especially those with 3 stage electronic throttle speeds, JD is bad for it, hit the button and fairly shove it into it and thing is bolted solid to rails, will always leak.

fendts are heavy as well so there’s no give for that crank.

Ant…

Hang on! What’s flexing??

 

[Jo28]

yes running to 10k - its buying quality german engineering/ owning from new, having them dealer serviced on the dot, same skilled / mature driver’s all their life and knowing they have had an easy life on combinable crops with no mud or heavy draft work that gives me confidence to do that hopefully without any major issues

in the months we are busy we put 250-350hrs on these machines, i can’t afford for them to be in a workshop in drilling, harvesting or spraying season

why would anyone sell a 1000 or 2000hr or even a 3000hr old tractor ? ……… because it’s been trouble most likely !

There are many many reasons why people swap tractors with relatively low hours, not just because they are trouble

 

[TelesnaAg]

Hang on! What’s flexing??

The crank will move back and forth a touch in the bearings by design, you measure this in big engines through inspection plates.

when you apply throttle the the energy is Transferred from combustion chamber to crank, this will cause slight flex and twisting.

when you rev a car engine you see it will pull one way as most a rubber mounted engine blocks.

when you rev a solid mounted engine that force fours through the crank.

high HP race car engines tune fuel timing to allow for crank shaft twist. F1 engines do this.

slowly reving up engine helps and not getting sudden load. Jd combine engines with electronic throttle is the worst for this.

case with the Cummins engine still use fukkk scope throttle.

Ant…

 

[icanshootwell]

And the gen 6 700 is still available. Not going anywhere. What’s the issue.

My issue is price really, I guess your happy to pay the extra, my last new one was 2016, seems cheap now.

 

[Chae1]

How many direct drills have you pulled with 240hp?

In some conditions I would say a 6m drill can be a big ask of a 300hp tractor, let alone 8 or 10 or 12 metres.

@agricontract was pulling 12m one with 4 cylinder valtra!

 

[Richard Smyth]

My issue is price really, I guess your happy to pay the extra, my last new one was 2016, seems cheap now.

Extra for what exactly. The world has moved on from 2016. Wish I was paying those prices but I’m not.

My posts have clearly stated I’ve bought a 900 series Fendt for 18% less than a Deere 8r. And 4% less than a case magnum. Both considerably less spec than the Fendt.