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Looked back at it and was going to edit no pun intended but there ended up being two puns, poet and I didn't know it ...
Looked back at it and was going to edit no pun intended but there ended up being two puns, poet and I didn't know it ...
They've only got go say blah blah blah to the press for a few more months , then it will be election and they will be on their gold platers or onto the lords ( or both) for their outstanding contribution to the job ...Had to listen to bollox on beavers first,
Relevance starts at 7min
The penny is dropping
The fat lady is singing
The little boy has shouted out “ But the emperor has no clothes”
I can see why you are sometimes a bit peed off with some of the big mouth arable Tffers who bray about their property portfolio or most recent ski holiday..Someone gave the example of tb testing
We have just come off three years of tb testing every 6 months that’s 12 days a year for 2 people just doing that then there’s all the pre movement testing in between that so roughly you could say that’s one month a year gone for one member of staff so in the last 3 years there’s been 3 months gone tb testing
Well not really I’ve bought some houses go to Mexico and Dubai for holidaysI can see why you are sometimes a bit peed off with some of the big mouth arable Tffers who bray about their property portfolio or most recent ski holiday..
You forgot the RRWell not really I’ve bought some houses go to Mexico and Dubai for holidays
Just don’t like being told about some of these imaginary public goods
Can't get it insuredYou forgot the RR
accompanied my wife to one of her work colleagues party at the weekend where as usual i was bombared with farming questions,i’ve got a lot of expensive seed sat waiting to drill with a very expensive drill and tractor to get my “money for nothing”
bps was beyond argument money for nothing - i’ve seen the BNG that sfi option deliver on my farm already and it’s a dramatic and positive thing that tax payers are definitely benefiting from, it’s certainly not “nothing”
its easy to justify the return to the taxpayer you just dont want to it doesnt suit your narrativenew range rover, new skis, nice holiday etc etc ……. it wasn’t a subsidy ever given to farmers ( they just pretended they did !) , it was a subsidy for landowners and there is no way you can justify that to tax payers, it REALLY did take the pee ……. as a landowner (who farms) at least i can be honest enough to admit that
sfi is somewhat better in that respect but stil missed opportunity - the key to ag subs is making sure FARMERS get them not landowners (investors) it’s not easy to achieve that however
the cap is a good idea in that respect BUT this inconsistency and moving of goalposts really is not on when we are making often life changing business decisions
Would a full BPS payment today be worth about ÂŁ300 per Hectare if it existed? A figure like that would sure help pay the rent?its easy to justify the return to the taxpayer you just dont want to it doesnt suit your narrative
simply explain the return to the economy and their pocket through the effect of lowering domestic food inflation by having home produce to compete with imports
its not a coiincidence we are seeing mass dispersals followed by all time record beef and sheep prices in the UK currently.........you just wont admit the facts staring you in the face,
wild bird seed =0 =return to the taxpayer
domestic food supply, jobs, food security and lower prices from bps = good value to taxpayer
ÂŁ88/acre i believe and getting smaller in real terms each year anyway with inflation, when you think about the amount of jobs, food production and rural economy this supported especially in livestock areas it really was fantastic valueWould a full BPS payment today be worth about ÂŁ300 per Hectare if it existed? A figure like that would sure help pay the rent?
I agree.. no extra spending going on here anymore as rent to pay... knock on effect just wasnt thought through was it?ÂŁ88/acre i believe and getting smaller in real terms each year anyway with inflation, when you think about the amount of jobs, food production and rural economy this supported especially in livestock areas it really was fantastic value
its easy to justify the return to the taxpayer you just dont want to it doesnt suit your narrative
simply explain the return to the economy and their pocket through the effect of lowering domestic food inflation by having home produce to compete with imports
its not a coiincidence we are seeing mass dispersals followed by all time record beef and sheep prices in the UK currently.........you just wont admit the facts staring you in the face,
wild bird seed =0 =return to the taxpayer
domestic food supply, jobs, food security and lower prices from bps = good value to taxpayer
you know ur wrong thats why........not got time to give you another economics lesson
Two of the largest claimants of BPS as I recall, and don't forget The Wildlife Trusts.i will hazard a guess , National Trust and RSPB are two of them ,Land agent driven !
Genuine Farmers would be far more cautious until proven ,
You think the tax payer in the towns worried that they cannot afford the next mortgage payment give a toss about BNG on your land? You are delusional if you think people want to see fat birds in the countryside while some people go to bed hungry!.The bps could be argued to the general public that it keeps the food price down,the sfi can noti’ve got a lot of expensive seed sat waiting to drill with a very expensive drill and tractor to get my “money for nothing”
bps was beyond argument money for nothing - i’ve seen the BNG that sfi option deliver on my farm already and it’s a dramatic and positive thing that tax payers are definitely benefiting from, it’s certainly not “nothing”
In what world can it be argued that BPS keeps food prices down??You think the tax payer in the towns worried that they cannot afford the next mortgage payment give a toss about BNG on your land? You are delusional if you think people want to see fat birds in the countryside while some people go to bed hungry!.The bps could be argued to the general public that it keeps the food price down,the sfi can not
Because it didIn what world can it be argued that BPS keeps food prices down??
With that logic, double BPS and food will be even cheaper.In what world can it be argued that BPS keeps food prices down??
How? On tenanted land it was transferred to the Landlord. The Crown, The Duke of Buccleugh etc, etc.Because it did
would as much food have been produced without BPS ?In what world can it be argued that BPS keeps food prices down??