New low for antis

[Kiwi Pete]

I must be the bloodiest person on here
Given that I fish, hunt most game, and stick wild pigs with a knife (given the chance) -and as for vector control.... best not say how we achieve that
I'm also the first one to identify myself as an environmentalist and conservationist!

It is a terrible situation, that your DEFRA is simply sitting back and letting all this play out; I made pretty clear in my email that if it wasn't such a serious issue then New Zealanders would be laughing at their shortcomings and negligence in dealing with bTb.
It is not difficult to bake a good cake, but some eggs will be broken in the process.

 

[SLA]

There should be WAY more emphasis on the public health issue when countering anti badger cull issues, it seems to have become cows v badgers which is seriously over simplifying it. Get really annoyed that you rarely hear anything about public health - maybe because the antis know the answer to people v badger question!

 

[hollister]

Can i just make it clear that you can report all their facebook post if you want, if i were ye i would start reporting them now. thats what i'm off to do for the next hour or so.

Report the whole page - harassing me or someone I know, then report to Facebook review.

 

[D14]

You are confusing the issue. What does controlling a grade 3 zoonotic pathogen (and its wild life vector) have to do with hunting?

I'm very clear on the real issue but the general public are not. It's grouped together with hunting as I said. That's a fact.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

I must be the bloodiest person on here
Given that I fish, hunt most game, and stick wild pigs with a knife (given the chance) -and as for vector control.... best not say how we achieve that
I'm also the first one to identify myself as an environmentalist and conservationist!

It is a terrible situation, that your DEFRA is simply sitting back and letting all this play out; I made pretty clear in my email that if it wasn't such a serious issue then New Zealanders would be laughing at their shortcomings and negligence in dealing with bTb.
It is not difficult to bake a good cake, but some eggs will be broken in the process.

So that's a no to you visiting the UK on a reciprocal fact finding tour then Pete

 

[Steevo]

So that's a no to you visiting the UK on a reciprocal fact finding tour then Pete

I'm sure we can find him a consultancy role!

 

[unlacedgecko]

The thing that makes me laugh is the way Gamal cried like a little bitch when someone offered to publish his address in a similar manner.

 

[Davy]

One one of the posts there's a link so you can donate money for the volunteers to buy coffee. Wonder if they put milk in it...

 

[Woolgatherer]

One one of the posts there's a link so you can donate money for the volunteers to buy coffee. Wonder if they put milk in it...

I saw this too, I wonder what sort of tax dodging scam this is. Unless this person has a big problem, he's not going to be drinking coffee to the amount of money sent to him for this purpose. So that means he's being sent money as donations, but as far as I can tell he's not a charity. Unearned income?

 

[unlacedgecko]

I'm very clear on the real issue but the general public are not. It's grouped together with hunting as I said. That's a fact.

Then they need educating on the very serious and real risk to health posed by zoonotic TB.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Then they need educating on the very serious and real risk to health posed by zoonotic TB.

That's how they do it, basically wrap a house-brick in chocolate and throw it 'slightly less hard' into the open maw of the bleeding heart brigade

The vegan brigade (sorry, animal rights) try exactly the same tactics here, when I have the time and energy I enjoy tearing their campaigns apart!
It's all selling an agenda, but they have no problem reporting me to FB police and neither do I, I know many simply don't have the time to waste on them!

 

[Kiwi Pete]

I'm sure we can find him a consultancy role!

If I can do it from here......
I would love to come over, but will readily admit I wouldn't handle farming under the conditions you describe.. I fear I would soon be living at her majesty's expense.
Your crims have far too many rights, which has the side effect of making doing the right thing a criminal act

 

[Steevo]

If I can do it from here......
I would love to come over, but will readily admit I wouldn't handle farming under the conditions you describe.. I fear I would soon be living at her majesty's expense.
Your crims have far too many rights, which has the side effect of making doing the right thing a criminal act

Everyone has lots of rights. Unfortunately not all appreciate the responsibilities that go hand in hand with the rights and prefer to ignore them.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Everyone has lots of rights. Unfortunately not all appreciate the responsibilities that go hand in hand with the rights and prefer to ignore them.

It is hard to watch it play out, that's for sure.

 

[Sid]

Don't forget anything you write can be seen by anyone and could give these criminals, as they are destroying property, more air and ideas.

What we need is a list of places to avoid.
Lush the soap shop
is one as they support financially these criminal activities carried out by the "supporters"

 

[unlacedgecko]

One one of the posts there's a link so you can donate money for the volunteers to buy coffee. Wonder if they put milk in it...

I saw this too, I wonder what sort of tax dodging scam this is. Unless this person has a big problem, he's not going to be drinking coffee to the amount of money sent to him for this purpose. So that means he's being sent money as donations, but as far as I can tell he's not a charity. Unearned income?

They're not actually buying coffee, but making a donation that is the same as a price of coffee from a coffee shop. It's part of the marketing drive by the antis 'give up a coffee to help us save badgers'.

Stop the Cull is headed by Jay Tiernan (real name Gamal Eboe). He has a criminal record for benefit fraud and obtaining funds by deception, among other things. He was director of the company Direct Action Limited, but it was the subject of compulsory strike off with Companies House after it failed to submit any accounts.

Most recently he was held in contempt of court for failing to abide by an injunction obtained by the NFU during the last round of culls.

Someone suggested that his full residential address by published online, as he has done to farmers and cull contractors. He got very upset and suggested that it would be illegal for anyone to put his children at risk like that.

It is testament to the law abiding nature of farmers and cull contractors that the man can still walk.

 

[Woolgatherer]

I realise that they're not buying coffee! If you read down the comments on his page (the vegan punk - I think it's the same person) there's a lot of "coffee" being bought. That's what I was getting at in my post, this is unearned income and I hope (doubt) he's being taxed on it.

 

[Sid]

Tax avoidance and Criminal damage.
Nice

 

[Sid]

Tax avoidance and Criminal damage.
Trespass and breaching farm biosecurity
Nice

 

[unlacedgecko]

I realise that they're not buying coffee! If you read down the comments on his page (the vegan punk - I think it's the same person) there's a lot of "coffee" being bought. That's what I was getting at in my post, this is unearned income and I hope (doubt) he's being taxed on it.

I'm aware of the Vegan Punk on Facebook but haven't discovered his real identity yet.

I think they're two different people, as Tiernan is active in the SW, where as the Vegan Punk claims to be Leeds based. But it could well be a info ops campaign to suggest anti numbers are higher than they are. It's been done before.

See below for 3 Scottish sab groups which appear to all be the same people...