New shed- all under one roof?

[TheRock]

Thinking of putting up a new shed on a greenfield site.

The shed will be for housing up to about 800 sheep (about 300 ewe lambs and possible 500 ewes for a period) and possibly a few cattle just for calving.

My question is, should it be one big shed or a few smaller ones?

This will be near enough the only building on the farm.

Many thanks

 

[neilo]

One big one, tall and clear enough that you can use it for other things when the sheep are gone.

 

[sheep&cows&stuff]

Yes, i agree - 1 big shed. What ever height you think you need it, go 5 foot higher. What ever width you think the passages need to be, go 2 foot wider.

Most importantly (and i know this from experience) - what ever cost you think it is going to be, have 30% more.

You wont regret it once its up.

 

[cotswoldcs]

Have you applied for planning? How easy is it to get planning for a livestock building?

 

[Nearly]

If it's an exposed site then why not do what the old boys did? 3 sheds in a U shape facing south and then you've got a 'free' sheltered area in the middle.

 

[Danllan]

The 'U' shape is fine, but that was for much smaller sheds in the old days; no need for a semi-sheltered yard now when the whole thing can be covered under a new build. But if you do choose that option - can't think why - get the middle drained and concrete the lot.

Most importantly! No matter what you go for, make sure it's modular and that it can be extended without problems in the future (i.e. extend your planned earthworks to allow for easy add-ons ).

 

[Purli R]

Big farmer near here on putting sheep shed up near 300ft x 80ft costing more than expected(200k alledgedly) to the point that it wont be fully finished this year.Will sheep profits pay back such a capital outlay?

 

[Sheep92]

Put them all under one roof, it will leave everything much handier for you,
No realistically the sheep will never really pay for it but sometimes theres theres more to life than swimming in shite for the winter trying to keep condition on ewes

 

[farmerm]

Big farmer near here on putting sheep shed up near 300ft x 80ft costing more than expected(200k alledgedly) to the point that it wont be fully finished this year.Will sheep profits pay back such a capital outlay?

Can a sheep profits ever pay back capital on a sheep shed...

 

[Hilly]

Thinking of putting up a new shed on a greenfield site.

The shed will be for housing up to about 800 sheep (about 300 ewe lambs and possible 500 ewes for a period) and possibly a few cattle just for calving.

My question is, should it be one big shed or a few smaller ones?

This will be near enough the only building on the farm.

Many thanks

One big one but make it substantially bigger than you think Cos it will never be big enough.

 

[Hilly]

Big farmer near here on putting sheep shed up near 300ft x 80ft costing more than expected(200k alledgedly) to the point that it wont be fully finished this year.Will sheep profits pay back such a capital outlay?

Hard question to answer in it .

 

[Hilly]

Hard question to answer in it . Some will some will never .

 

[Tim G]

I think I would avoid one shed, disease control may be easier in two or three smaller buildings, isolation, alternative uses etc.

 

[farmerm]

Hard question to answer in it .

I would have thought it is an easy question to answer but then I guess it depends if you put lamb prices at £20/head or £200/head into your projections

 

[Hilly]

I would have thought it is an easy question to answer but then I guess it depends if you put lamb prices at £20/head or £200/head into your projections

He might sell breeding stock and rams for 50k each. Ewe lambs for 200 each he might own farm with no debt he might have to pay 200 acre rent it’s a difficult question to answer

 

[farmerm]

He might sell breeding stock and rams for 50k each. Ewe lambs for 200 each he might own farm with no debt he might have to pay 200 acre rent it’s a difficult question to answer

Then he can do the maths on that basis... Simple to work out cost of new shed per lamb produced

Cost of shed per lamb sold = Cost of shed ________________________________________________
Expected number or lambs to be produced from the shed over a period of say 20 years


Once you know that figure you can at least make an educated judgment call on its affordability... Ifs it is a figure of £40/lamb produced and you expect to produce £60 lambs it does look as wise as if costs £5/lamb but you are expecting to achieve £250/lamb sold

 

[Hilly]

Then he can do the maths on that basis... Simple to work out cost of new shed per lamb produced

Cost of shed per lamb sold = Cost of shed ________________________________________________
Expected number or lambs to be produced from the shed over a period of say 20 years


Once you know that figure you can at least make an educated judgment call on its affordability... Ifs it is a figure of £40/lamb produced and you expect to produce £60 lambs it does look as wise as if costs £5/lamb but you are expecting to achieve £250/lamb sold

He probably has but it wasn’t the man building it asking the fooooking wuestion was it ffs you lot are hard work be easier teaching 40 5 year olds .

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

from memory once over 45 foot span lot bigger steel iis needed,
so if me, put up a shed 45' wide a good height to eves, with 30' lean to on each side, that would give good 100' wide and as long as you can afford, but do ground works now to extend more bays in future,

 

[Gator]

He probably has but it wasn’t the man building it asking the fooooking wuestion was it ffs you lot are hard work be easier teaching 40 5 year olds .

I had the same when I started my thread, ever ones a citic , it's what works for the individual, every ones different, if I could more room I'd stick another up tomorra.

 

[Hilly]

from memory once over 45 foot span lot bigger steel iis needed,
so if me, put up a shed 45' wide a good height to eves, with 30' lean to on each side, that would give good 100' wide and as long as you can afford, but do ground works now to extend more bays in future, be ok if you can utilise the poles down the middle , they could become a pia

I had the same when I started my thread, ever ones a citic , it's what works for the individual, every ones different, if I could more room I'd stick another up tomorra.

exactly everyone’s circumstances are different , these people who think no one can do things Cos they can’t and try to second guess other people’s financial situations are silly . No farmer ever said I wish I had not built that shed ! Every farmer including me says at some point I wish I had built that shed bigger or I wish I had another shed