New Weaving DD drill

[britt]

Sorry to hear your crops haven't picked up, I guess there is a positive if there were lessons to learn, and the situation improved going forward though.

I'm surprised seeding depth was an issue, the only problems I've had is when I've drilled through the trash, but not got the seed into the soil.

This last winter and spring have certainly been difficult for No Till, too wet all winter, too cold all spring.

Sorry to hear your crops haven't picked up, I guess there is a positive if there were lessons to learn, and the situation improved going forward though.

I'm surprised seeding depth was an issue, the only problems I've had is when I've drilled through the trash, but not got the seed into the soil.

This last winter and spring have certainly been difficult for No Till, too wet all winter, too cold all spring.

And no decent frost

 

[yellow belly]

Notill will often look poorer than tilled crops especially when the weather is wet but crops do not yield how they look
Poor looking tilled crops never improve

I have noticed that since using the big disc to plant spring beans the weeds do no come like cultivated crops bentazone plus oil does most of them no need of pre ems for blw
I put the low weed levels down to straw layer in 2013 but had cold late crops so in 14 and 15 bailed straw also with lower weed levels but dryer soil gave problems for drilling depth and slot opening up so this year left straw but now have a cold late spring
Still low blw levels and late planting helps wit bg control
The question for 2017 bale straw but combine long to aid combine output but still put enough straw back
I have also planted 4 fields after grazed catch crop this will work on lighter stones land but would not work on clay land except in hard winters don't get them any more

 

[Feldspar]

Errrr...yes

When I finally get them maybe I'll start sleeping properly again

As a man of his word, here you go, and only six months late.

Dale:

(Yes, the phone is on zoom, and yes my hands shake, so it's still not the best photo.)

Sumo DD area:

I have to say that this is one of the most impressive demo results I have ever seen. At the times the conditions were really challenging (Mzuri wouldn't go without blocking up, and the Claydon was really struggling too). The demo was into a heavy strawed wheat crop in really quite wet and sticky clay. There was a lot of hair-pinning and open slots. I really thought the crop would be a failure given the conditions. After emergence it looked better than expected, but I still didn't think it would come to a great deal. Well, what a difference the warm part of spring has made. Whilst not 100% perfect, I don't think you could hope for much better than this. NB: This is a neighbour's field, and they actually know what they're doing.

 

[Fuzzy]

As a man of his word, here you go, and only six months late.

Dale:
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(Yes, the phone is on zoom, and yes my hands shake, so it's still not the best photo.)
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Sumo DD area:
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I have to say that this is one of the most impressive demo results I have ever seen. At the times the conditions were really challenging (Mzuri wouldn't go without blocking up, and the Claydon was really struggling too). The demo was into a heavy strawed wheat crop in really quite wet and sticky clay. There was a lot of hair-pinning and open slots. I really thought the crop would be a failure given the conditions. After emergence it looked better than expected, but I still didn't think it would come to a great deal. Well, what a difference the warm part of spring has made. Whilst not 100% perfect, I don't think you could hope for much better than this. NB: This is a neighbour's field, and they actually know what they're doing.

What was the drilling date ?

 

[Feldspar]

What was the drilling date ?

Just looked, and it wasn't quite as late as I had remembered. 10th October.

Bad picture, but this was behind the Sumo. Conditions don't look that bad, but my memory is clearer - they weren't great.

 

[Richard III]

Both JD and Weaving had their drills on demo at the Wynstay Arable Event today.

Here's the Weaving's attempt :-

And here's the 750A :-

The soil was easy and moist, but badly rutted and the drills were expected to drill across the ruts for the demo. No seed was going down, but both were probably running at close to 40mm.

Both drills were travelling quite slowly, but the 750A was definitely running the quicker of the two. The 750A was a factory fit, no guttlers.

 

[Jim Bullock]

Richard, was the Weaving on a Fendt ?

 

[Richard III]

Richard, was the Weaving on a Fendt ?

Yes, but I don't think they would have needed it's 'extra' capabilities today.

 

[JD6920s]

Both JD and Weaving had their drills on demo at the Wynstay Arable Event today.

Here's the Weaving's attempt :-
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And here's the 750A :-
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The soil was easy and moist, but badly rutted and the drills were expected to drill across the ruts for the demo. No seed was going down, but both were probably running at close to 40mm.

Both drills were travelling quite slowly, but the 750A was definitely running the quicker of the two. The 750A was a factory fit, no guttlers.

And the 750 had a following harrow working to try to level the soil but it did not look to be working!

 

[jimmyriddle]

I am selling my weaving drill if anyone is interested. I have been told it isn't to expensive to convert to a gd drill and for the price I want it would be cheaper than buying a new GD !!https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/drills-weaving-big-disc-2-5-price-reduced.122840/

 

[APJ]

Anyone who tried one this year harvested there crops, how have they performed?

Really think we should take the plunge and try one, just after some feedback now!

 

[MrNoo]

Had a demo on Thursday of the 3m mounted GD on some heavy ground drilling OSR, it was fallow last season, so a nice tilth and very stiff just below the surface. Did a very good job, seed already chitted, will be very interesting to see how the crop progresses. I must say a very nicely built piece of kit. I liked it a lot.

 

[APJ]

That's good to hear, did you use your own tractor or did they have it on the fendt? That's the only concern is when on hard ground do you need more down force.

 

[MrNoo]

It was on their 4 pot Fendt, Topcon wasn't working though, so my OCD about straight lines will come out to play!!
Looking at it working, I am sure it would have gone deeper but we decided just to cut through the tilth and just into the moisture layer as didn't wish to be lifting chunks of clay out, there was plenty of moisture present, so we weren't going deep at all. The ground wasn't the most even but to be fair it followed the contours well and put the seed exactly where we wanted it. Slot closure was good, did intend to run the Cambridge rolls over it but by the time I had finished drilling the field I was in and rolled that I didn't have time to roll the GD drilled field.
We blew pellets in with the seed, a very good feature and did a very good job of that.
So we will just have to see how it grows, it is on one of the snottiest clay fields on the farm (hence why it was fallow last year) will be putting some fert on it as soon as it emerges (prob late next week if we aren't combining) Looking forward to seeing it progress.
Would like to see it drilling cereals before I made any decision re purchase, currently min-till here and drill with a Vaddy, which for seed placement will take some beating but being a "one man band" the attraction of direct drilling appeals but I think I need to work more on our soils for it to work well over the whole farm.
I still have a Massey Direct drill in the shed mind from when the last generation went down this route!!

 

[APJ]

It was on their 4 pot Fendt, Topcon wasn't working though, so my OCD about straight lines will come out to play!!
Looking at it working, I am sure it would have gone deeper but we decided just to cut through the tilth and just into the moisture layer as didn't wish to be lifting chunks of clay out, there was plenty of moisture present, so we weren't going deep at all. The ground wasn't the most even but to be fair it followed the contours well and put the seed exactly where we wanted it. Slot closure was good, did intend to run the Cambridge rolls over it but by the time I had finished drilling the field I was in and rolled that I didn't have time to roll the GD drilled field.
We blew pellets in with the seed, a very good feature and did a very good job of that.
So we will just have to see how it grows, it is on one of the snottiest clay fields on the farm (hence why it was fallow last year) will be putting some fert on it as soon as it emerges (prob late next week if we aren't combining) Looking forward to seeing it progress.
Would like to see it drilling cereals before I made any decision re purchase, currently min-till here and drill with a Vaddy, which for seed placement will take some beating but being a "one man band" the attraction of direct drilling appeals but I think I need to work more on our soils for it to work well over the whole farm.
I still have a Massey Direct drill in the shed mind from when the last generation went down this route!!

We are currently min till thinking of direct drilling and going for a disc drill but to start with run a low disturbance subsoiler in front of it for a couple of years to help the move from min till to direct drilling, don't like strip drills to much soil moved.

 

[willy]

Going to plant some osr tomorrow, 1st time with our gd will post some pictures.

It is very dry as we have not had any rain for 6 weeks, although it's spitting now

 

[willy]

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Here are a few pics drilling osr into baled stubble using between 3.5 and 4.5 lts of fuel ha

 

[Robert]

Here are a few pics drilling osr into baled stubble using between 3.5 and 4.5 lots of fuel ha

How was it coping with the dry / hard conditions - would it have gone to cereal depth ok? Look forward to seeing your progress!

 

[willy]

How was it coping with the dry / hard conditions - would it have gone to cereal depth ok? Look forward to seeing your progress!

Yes I did play about drilling some oats as cover crop into osr stubble hard as nails. But it penetrated to 2 inches but just had to slow down to 7-8 km/h to stop it breaking the clods up rather than slicing under them

 

[APJ]

Yes I did play about drilling some oats as cover crop into osr stubble hard as nails. But it penetrated to 2 inches but just had to slow down to 7-8 km/h to stop it breaking the clods up rather than slicing under them

Looks very tidy, liking the fuel usage!
What was your previous establishment system?