Next wednesday

[turbo]

That's a good stroke of luck then

Why? I See plenty of people wanting jobs on farms and I would say 95% are good lads,so what's your point

 

[czechmate]

Why? I See plenty of people wanting jobs on farms and I would say 95% are good lads,so what's your point

Why? I See plenty of people wanting jobs on farms and I would say 95% are good lads,so what's your point

Why is HJ 100% Eastern Europeans then?
My point - my dad started an engineering co when I was 10. I had to leave school at 16 to help out, the business was a good one, from my school year we employed 8 lads.
I left that company to start farming many years ago, however it has dwindled due to the fact no Brit wants to stand at a bench watching mig wire burn (makes sense, it's a job), even despite the fact my dad being a member of the bnp, he tried to keep it going with Poles but gave up as in his opinion their English was t good enough.
We peaked at around 60 employees, now 4, the youngest in their 50's = no future

 

[RobFZS]

Why is HJ 100% Eastern Europeans then?
My point - my dad started an engineering co when I was 10. I had to leave school at 16 to help out, the business was a good one, from my school year we employed 8 lads.
I left that company to start farming many years ago, however it has dwindled due to the fact no Brit wants to stand at a bench watching mig wire burn (makes sense, it's a job), even despite the fact my dad being a member of the bnp, he tried to keep it going with Poles but gave up as in his opinion their English was t good enough.
We peaked at around 60 employees, now 4, the youngest in their 50's = no future

Because Blair and his ilk, encouraged the education system to make sure it was purely academics and nothing practical, if you wanted to do something practical, you were a thicko, or the option just wasn't there, i know, i went through it

Now we've got f**k all builders, f**k all carers and f**k all farmers, but we've got plenty of people stacking shelves on min wage with a media degree , it's going to take literally years to overturn this thinking now

 

[turbo]

Why is HJ 100% Eastern Europeans then?
My point - my dad started an engineering co when I was 10. I had to leave school at 16 to help out, the business was a good one, from my school year we employed 8 lads.
I left that company to start farming many years ago, however it has dwindled due to the fact no Brit wants to stand at a bench watching mig wire burn (makes sense, it's a job), even despite the fact my dad being a member of the bnp, he tried to keep it going with Poles but gave up as in his opinion their English was t good enough.
We peaked at around 60 employees, now 4, the youngest in their 50's = no future

What was he building,around here plenty of engineering companies still going admittedly not like it was years ago when we had Ruston buycrus and other heavy industry but time have changed. I Would say within a 50 mile radius of here you could get most implements made to run a farm,I still don't get your point unless you think that once we leave no one will be allowed here to work

 

[czechmate]

Because Blair and his ilk, encouraged the education system to make sure it was purely academics and nothing practical, if you wanted to do something practical, you were a thicko, or the option just wasn't there, i know, i went through it

Now we've got fudge all builders, fudge all carers and fudge all farmers, but we've got plenty of people stacking shelves on min wage with a media degree , it's going to take literally years to overturn this thinking now

That's a top post rob and the root of the problems in the UK. Except imho it started with thatcher.

 

[czechmate]

What was he building,around here plenty of engineering companies still going admittedly not like it was years ago when we had Ruston buycrus and other heavy industry but time have changed. I Would say within a 50 mile radius of here you could get most implements made to run a farm,I still don't get your point unless you think that once we leave no one will be allowed here to work

Even if they are allowed, will they want to? Simple physiology, every one wants to feel wanted, yes, even Eastern Europeans!

Edit to answer your question.
We didn't have a product but specialised in subcontract work almost entirely for the large scale construction industry.
An unbelievable amount of invisible steelwork up in the roof space above the ceiling

 

[bobk]

I suppose if the EU slap a load of tarrifs on us we may have to start making stuff again.

 

[czechmate]

I suppose if the EU slap a load of tarrifs on us we may have to start making stuff again.

There's always automation

 

[Honest john]

Why is HJ 100% Eastern Europeans then?
My point - my dad started an engineering co when I was 10. I had to leave school at 16 to help out, the business was a good one, from my school year we employed 8 lads.
I left that company to start farming many years ago, however it has dwindled due to the fact no Brit wants to stand at a bench watching mig wire burn (makes sense, it's a job), even despite the fact my dad being a member of the bnp, he tried to keep it going with Poles but gave up as in his opinion their English was t good enough.
We peaked at around 60 employees, now 4, the youngest in their 50's = no future

We have Eastern Europeans because when Politicians made it easier for them to work in UK while at the same time making it harder for non EU's to get work permits.

Not knocking our European workers at all but it was in many ways better before, as the commonwealth nations in the main spoke good English.

The Language is a battle every day now, for the UK staff as well as the management.

That's the problem with the Whole EU thing 28 nations 28 languages, 28 cultures, what ever could go wrong ?

 

[turbo]

Even if they are allowed, will they want to? Simple physiology, every one wants to feel wanted, yes, even Eastern Europeans!

Edit to answer your question.
We didn't have a product but specialised in subcontract work almost entirely for the large scale construction industry.
An unbelievable amount of invisible steelwork up in the roof space above the ceiling

Plenty of kiwis and Aussies want to work here but have been stopped because we have too many people coming here already,I have yet to find a single east European that's good at his job go home because he is not loved by the people here

 

[czechmate]

We have Eastern Europeans because when Politicians made it easier for them to work in UK while at the same time making it harder for non EU's to get work permits.

Not knocking our European workers at all but it was in many ways better before, as the commonwealth nations in the main spoke good English.

The languish is a battle every day now, for the UK staff as well as the management.

That's the problem with the Whole EU thing 28 nations 28 languishes, 28 cultures, what ever could go wrong ?

They could always make a single currency

 

[czechmate]

Plenty of kiwis and Aussies want to work here but have been stopped because we have too many people coming here already,I have yet to find a single east European that's good at his job go home because he is not loved by the people here

Have I missed something? I thought this thread was about triggering something - next week! Ie, you havnt even said you are leaving yet, not even starting on what the hell it means to anyone, especially someone concidering upping sticks and moving 1,000 miles west - going to make a lot think. Well I know it, I have inside info

 

[czechmate]

Ok, trying to get into the swing of the thing, are there street parties planned?

 

[turbo]

Have I missed something? I thought this thread was about triggering something - next week! Ie, you havnt even said you are leaving yet, not even starting on what the hell it means to anyone, especially someone concidering upping sticks and moving 1,000 miles west - going to make a lot think. Well I know it, I have inside info

Your the one running this country down,saying we have made the wrong decision by leaving your little club,all I am saying there is plenty of people around the world wanting to work here without having to let everybody in from Europe

 

[le bon paysan]

On Bloomberg now, BMW looking at moving production of the Mini to EU

 

[RobFZS]

On Bloomberg now, BMW looking at moving production of the Mini to EU

All the more reason for the government, and parliament in particular, grow a brain and work out fast how we can duplicate a customs arrangement such as what Norway have with the EU while outside the customs union.

 

[czechmate]

Your the one running this country down,saying we have made the wrong decision by leaving your little club,all I am saying there is plenty of people around the world wanting to work here without having to let everybody in from Europe

I suppose. I actually thought it was a great country in the sixties, not that bad in the 70's. Certainly by the end of the 80's I thought it was shot. Looking at that timing, maybe your correct and it's all down to being in the eu? Then again, it was the uk begging to join for so many years

 

[le bon paysan]

All the more reason for the government, and parliament in particular, grow a brain and work out fast how we can duplicate a customs arrangement such as what Norway have with the EU while outside the customs union.

Not that simple;
https://www.ft.com/content/504d1380-0586-11e7-ace0-1ce02ef0def9

 

[RobFZS]

Not that simple;
https://www.ft.com/content/504d1380-0586-11e7-ace0-1ce02ef0def9

The FT hasn't got a clue, nor was i suggesting that it was simple, that's half the issue here, people looking to jump on others, on the slightest thing they do know, to point score.

Nor do i have access to that paywall, if you want some proper brexit analyse, go to here, starting wih this

http://peterjnorth.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/yes-brexit-is-mess-so-what.html

 

[le bon paysan]

The FT hasn't got a clue, nor was i suggesting that it was simple, that's half the issue here, people looking to jump on others, on the slightest thing they do know, to point score.

Nor do i have access to that paywall, if you want some proper brexit analyse, go to here, starting wih this

http://peterjnorth.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/yes-brexit-is-mess-so-what.html

Not looking to point score or jump on you. Bit touchy aren't you? Why do you imply I am thicker than you for holding a different opinion?