NFU Brexit

[Tom.6420]

Who do you think does all the cleaning and the other unrewarding jobs? Mainly the Eastern Europeans.

I'm fairly sure if low skilled migration is what you believe is required in order that the nhs should avoid being crippled then there are rather a lot of willing people outside of the EU.
Migration is essential for the future development of our country I simply don't believe that low skilled migrants bring the benefits that some people would have you believe.

 

[Smith31]

I'm fairly sure if low skilled migration is what you believe is required in order that the nhs should avoid being crippled then there are rather a lot of willing people outside of the EU.
Migration is essential for the future development of our country I simply don't believe that low skilled migrants bring the benefits that some people would have you believe.

Please correct me if im wrong, but didn't most people who voted to leave, do so to reduce immigration? So how will replacing Polish workers with Indians be beneficial?

 

[wanton dwarf]

Please correct me if im wrong, but didn't most people who voted to leave, do so to reduce immigration? So how will replacing Polish workers with Indians be beneficial?

Isn't that NOT reducing immigration ?

 

[wanton dwarf]

Who do you think does all the cleaning and the other unrewarding jobs? Mainly the Eastern Europeans.

I've not seen any Eastern Europeans doing cleaning jobs .. but I have seen lots of Eastern European lorry drivers, mainly Polish, some with unsafe vehicles, mainly bringing in German goods.

I've seen Eastern Europeans operating closed shops.

I've not seen any Eastern European doing "Unrewarding Jobs" .. most of those are done by family who HAVE do them .. mind you I've seen some dairy farmers with second jobs doing emptying spetic tanks .. he wasn't an Eastern European either.

 

[roscoe erf]

Yes I will lose mor


He quoted his reason, which was that he needed a back up to English lamb due to his fears regarding the outcome of the Brexit negotiations.

so it is just fear and not you or your buyer have any idea whats going to happen

 

[Tom.6420]

Please correct me if im wrong, but didn't most people who voted to leave, do so to reduce immigration? So how will replacing Polish workers with Indians be beneficial?

Some but not all. I voted leave to have our government choose who comes here not reduce who comes here. Though most of us who voted leave are too thick to understand what we voted for supposedly!

 

[Smith31]

so it is just fear and not you or your buyer have any idea whats going to happen

All that I know is that we have had a excellent relationship with many European customers for many years. Over the past few months we have slowly lost orders not because of price, but because the customers are making back up plans.

When you employ people, run premises with full business rates etc, lease trucks and run them on white diesel etc the last thing you need is long term uncertainty.

Im not here to argue with folk but people need to be realistic its not going to br easy going alone.

 

[roscoe erf]

All that I know is that we have had a excellent relationship with many European customers for many years. Over the past few months we have slowly lost orders not because of price, but because the customers are making back up plans.

When you employ people, run premises with full business rates etc, lease trucks and run them on white diesel etc the last thing you need is long term uncertainty.

Im not here to argue with folk but people need to be realistic its not going to br easy going alone.

nobody ever said it was going to be easy but i'm sick to death of all the moaning scare mongering and plain name calling on these Brexit threads some try using big words or ramblings but are only stirring and insulting because they didn't get the result they wanted its pathetic

 

[ollie989898]

nobody ever said it was going to be easy but i'm sick to death of all the moaning scare mongering and plain name calling on these Brexit threads some try using big words or ramblings but are only stirring and insulting because they didn't get the result they wanted its pathetic

Nail on head there.

 

[Ashtree]

Withdrawal in UK in any shape or form seems to take on massive complications at the very thought of it.
@Forage Trader wants to withdraw from NFU but hasn’t a clue how. He asks the membership for advice, and clearly there is huge difference in opinions. Now @Forage Trader is even more confused and plans an away day to consider his options.

Does anybody see the parallels with another great withdrawal movement?

Frankly, I’ve always found the withdrawal method to be a hit and miss afair myself.

 

[yin ewe]

Please correct me if im wrong, but didn't most people who voted to leave, do so to reduce immigration? So how will replacing Polish workers with Indians be beneficial?

Control doesn't necessarily mean reducing immigration, if we need doctors for the NHS, we recruit doctors from either inside or outside the EU, if we need plumbers, we recruit plumbers, if we need accountants, we recruit accountants, simples?

 

[wanton dwarf]

Withdrawal in UK in any shape or form seems to take on massive complications at the very thought of it.
@Forage Trader wants to withdraw from NFU but hasn’t a clue how. He asks the membership for advice, and clearly there is huge difference in opinions. Now @Forage Trader is even more confused and plans an away day to consider his options.

Does anybody see the parallels with another great withdrawal movement?

Frankly, I’ve always found the withdrawal method to be a hit and miss afair myself.

Fishy fishy fishy.

Your fishing and Forage Trader is fishing .. if he wanted to know how to leave he'd ask the NFU surely ? But instead he posts on the Politics forum of TFF .. perhaps he has a political motive ? which you obviously twist towards your political motive.

ZZZzzz

 

[caveman]

All that I know is that we have had a excellent relationship with many European customers for many years. Over the past few months we have slowly lost orders not because of price, but because the customers are making back up plans.

When you employ people, run premises with full business rates etc, lease trucks and run them on white diesel etc the last thing you need is long term uncertainty.

Im not here to argue with folk but people need to be realistic its not going to br easy going alone.

There was a pratt on News Night last night, from the "British sandwich makers federation" or some such lunatic, shite excuse for a pee up club, who was saying the country was going to starve if his members couldn't get Spanish lettuce to put into their sarnies. Twatt .

Here's an idea for you, as you seem to be such the big, clever, business man.

Start a line and call it the Brexit Sarnie.. ... ... composed of purely British ingredients, of course.
You'll make a fortune.
(And I want a royalty).

 

[Ashtree]

There was a pratt on News Night last night, from the "British sandwich makers federation" or some such lunatic, shite excuse for a pee up club, who was saying the country was going to starve if his members couldn't get Spanish lettuce to put into their sarnies. Twatt .

Here's an idea for you, as you seem to be such the big, clever, business man.

Start a line and call it the Brexit Sarnie.. ... ... composed of purely British ingredients, of course.
You'll make a fortune.
(And I want a royalty).

And you should shame this guy, by showing how you and fellow British farmers in general, practice what you preach ....... ‘n the yard full of British only horsepower and equipment .....

 

[7610 super q]

The remainers don't seem to have considered the morals of employing cheap foreign labour to do sh!ty jobs. Nor pondered why Johny foreigner is happy with £7 / hour, whilst sulky British Kevin wants £70k before getting out of bed ?
Have the remainers pondered the wisdom of propping up agriculture with subs the last 40 years, instead of sorting the root problem of low food prices ?

And why are remainers so unpleasant ? Can't form a single post without insults.
Reinforces the choice I made was right.

 

[Two Tone]

And you should shame this guy, by showing how you and fellow British farmers in general, practice what you preach ....... ‘n the yard full of British only horsepower and equipment .....

My yard is full of British only HP except for the Combine. Nobody makes them here any more since we joined the EU (of course!).

And looking in my fridge, nearly everything in it is British too, including the lettuce! Yeah!

Perhaps I shouldn’t mention that most of it comes from a German Supermarket. Apart from the fact that they really do support British farmers!

Oh, sorry I forgot the wine. No, it’s alright..... French vineyard owned and run by an Englishman. We actually have our own vineyard here, but his wine is better... just.

Edit: especially for @Ashtree:
We had to get rid of our Irish built telehandler and buy an English built one. But it was 10 years old and very good. Unfortunately the company that built it went bust and were bought out by a French one, who then had to withdraw their own so called updated version of it, because it was so unreliable and not fit for purpose.

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

When Scotland get their independence will I not be allowed to drink Scotch whisky any more?

 

[Smith31]

There was a pratt on News Night last night, from the "British sandwich makers federation" or some such lunatic, shite excuse for a pee up club, who was saying the country was going to starve if his members couldn't get Spanish lettuce to put into their sarnies. Twatt .

Here's an idea for you, as you seem to be such the big, clever, business man.

Start a line and call it the Brexit Sarnie.. ... ... composed of purely British ingredients, of course.
You'll make a fortune.
(And I want a royalty).

Firstly I voted leave so I am not a bitter remainer. A decision I now regret. So no need for personal insults whilst hiding behind a keyboard.I am not a big business man, I am simply trying to ensure my business survives long term.

However you really shouldn't worry about Spanish lettuce, you should have bigger worries closer to home, mainly your childrens future inheritance.

If Brexit goes tits up there is a a real chance of Labour winning the next election. When Mr Corbyn takes control, he will have no mercy on farmers, Business rates on farm land alone will ensure most sell up to rich city horsey folk. Inhertiance tax laws for farmers will be abolished. Farmers are not immune to any future fall out which may occur. In all honesty we do have it too easy.

And no the country will not starve if we don't produce British, it will mean more food gets imported, which may cost the consumer more, but when did politicians use common sense?

 

[Boohoo]

Edit: especially for @Ashtree:
We had to get rid of our Irish built telehandler and buy an English built one. But it was 10 years old and very good. Unfortunately the company that built it went bust and were bought out by a French one, who then had to withdraw their own so called updated version of it, because it was so unreliable and not fit for purpose.

An Irish built telehandler? Are you sure? If it was a Redrock it was British built.

 

[Two Tone]

An Irish built telehandler? Are you sure? If it was a Redrock it was British built.

Yes I know. But couldn’t resist winding @Ashtree up!