Remember that Sunak has promised a UK food production/supply tracker to "ensure domestic production is maintained"
NFU is highly political and seems to be serving so many masters that it appears to be falling in to the gap in the middle
NFU claiming credit for 25% SFI cap
- Thread starter Mad Farmer
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Remember that Sunak has promised a UK food production/supply tracker to "ensure domestic production is maintained"
NFU is highly political and seems to be serving so many masters that it appears to be falling in to the gap in the middle
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
NFU don't understand basic anything. They are so far detatched from their supposed membership group that the membership have already left.
They exist in a world of their own imagination where they have importance and a say in national policy, a bit like us.
I'm still an NFU member and I think it's absolutely right that some of the SFI options are limited to 25%. So I guess, even though SFI doesn't directly effect me here, they are representing this member.
As @Henarar posted, with a limited pot, is it not better than is spread more thinly, rather than going to a small number of arable farmers that want to milk it and take their whole farms out of production? Or worse, landlords to kick their tenants off to put everything into legume fallow, etc.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
Legume fallow (NUM3) is not included in the 25%
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
It should be, imo.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
Reasoned argument from yourself - as ever.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
Probably a 25% limit on its own???
- Location
- Lincolnshire.
The NFU may be happy with this small change but the system is fundamentally flawed. The whole thing has a dishonest base, net zero is a lie, and exporting food production isn’t in the national interest yet the NFU have excepted that warped logic. Personally I am still comfortable not paying a subscription.
- Location
- East Yorkshire
The only thing the 25% limit makes clear is that it will be impossible to get anywhere near BPS level of funding. In my situation it wasn't possible before this limit but now even worse. So probably will just collect the bits and bobs and continue as before but without the sub.
- Location
- Cirencester
No need is there, it's plainly obvious to any normal hard working farmer what the NFU are and what they stand for, exactly what I wrote. That's how I feel, I feel that way because of the NFU's actions or lack of them
- Location
- Yorks
- Seems sensible to ensure each farm has equal opportunities for the SFI payments.
- Food production/profit is a reasonable desire of a farming union. Food security isn't. That's government's domain.
- Farming unions should be aware that large areas of SFI means less food production... which could mean higher prices and higher margins. So no bad thing.
- Number "3" above. e.g. for grain gives us a ££ boost if we become net importers Vs net exporters, but means higher grain prices for livestock producers. But generally speaking, lower food production should mean higher prices.
- Although I stand by the line in number "1" above, DEFRA are now running a two tier SFI system for next 3 years. The opportunities for SFI support payments are unequal. This is unfair and wrong. It's totally DEFRA's mess up. Many grassland farms could have been waiting for the Autumn SFI updates before applying. DEFRA schoolboy incompetence. There was never any way they could manage their budget without a % or ££ cap. We told them. They didn't listen. Now it's a mess and has created an unequal playing field within England for SFI cash.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Why dont they get it, that the best interests of members are a) better pay or b) better "conditions"? However that comes about.
Unless it's the interests of perhaps more influential members it's working for?
Unless it's the interests of perhaps more influential members it's working for?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I'd argue that food production should not be the aim. More profit, or the same profit for less hassle. By any means necessary. Using the fewest and simplest words to articulate it.
num3 doesn't pay enough to take a lot out of production
- Location
- North Somerset.
Without profit there will be no food production in a very short space of time.
What did you expect?
But why 25% why not 25 acres for Instance because thats what a 100 acre farmer will have to make the best of so why shouldn't a 1k acre famer be made to stick to the same 25 .
As ever these things are biast against smaller famers when ghdbigedv one's don't need any encouragement anyway.
spin cycle
Member
- Location
- north norfolk
that's a good point...BUT ...if food security is an issue why remove all it's support and remove it to enviro schemes?
NFU should attack this and stop further reduction
FFS...shush
Hindsight
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
It pays better than landowner first charge and share of divisible surplus in a CFA agreement growing combinable crops with current commodity prices, risk and interest rates. I suggest many land providers would be better off for three year period sacking off their farm contractor and placing all land into NUM3 now the higher pay options AHL 1,2,3 have gone. Welcome alternative views and financials aspects.
it will do the soil some good i expect but wont pay the bills here I'm afraid if theres a lot of it
- Location
- Limousin, France
Well somebody has to blow their trumpet, because I wouldn't.
- Location
- Durham, UK
Yes i can belive it my daft collie dog has more brains