nfu drought summit

[DRC]

interesting idea, could see it working here if land destined for spring crops was to have an unplanned stubble turnip /forage rape or if land to be sown with a short term grass had a mix of st or fr mixed with it but the time window is short

And it needs some decent rain , which many of us still haven’t had

 

[Hindsight]

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-new...tion-incentive-announced-for-tillage-farmers/

As I read the press release the additional funding does not apply if the land is assigned as EFA or if in a GLAS scheme as fodder - would that be a stewardship scheme of some description? So I presume it applies to land that is switched from autumn cereals or autumn oilseed rape into a fodder crop - thus compensating for loss of a cereal. As I am not in Eire and not familiar with your subsidy schemes this is pure guesswork. Would you like to explain where this payment fits in? Thanks.

 

[nivilla1982]

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/teagasc-draws-up-silage-production-agreement-contracts/
Teagasc draws up silage production agreement contracts

 

[Cowcorn]

As I read the press release the additional funding does not apply if the land is assigned as EFA or if in a GLAS scheme as fodder - would that be a stewardship scheme of some description? So I presume it applies to land that is switched from autumn cereals or autumn oilseed rape into a fodder crop - thus compensating for loss of a cereal. As I am not in Eire and not familiar with your subsidy schemes this is pure guesswork. Would you like to explain where this payment fits in? Thanks.

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/teagasc-draws-up-silage-production-agreement-contracts/
Teagasc draws up silage production agreement contracts

land that would be destined for spring cereals would be targeted south east is big malting barley country and free draining land.

 

[cornishfarmer]

@Guy Smith can I ask what has been achieved so far since the summit?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

The Irish are on full invasion mode
You can forget hay now .They may leave us sone straw if we are lucky

 

[jondear]

The Irish are on full invasion mode
You can forget hay now .They may leave us sone straw if we are lucky

I bet Ireland is greener than anywhere in southern England!

 

[sidjon]

The Irish are on full invasion mode
You can forget hay now .They may leave us sone straw if we are lucky

Mate in Wiltshire has sold 1000 ton of maize to the Irish and their looking for more, if you need it you better find it now or it could be gone

 

[Tarw Coch]

The Irish are on full invasion mode
You can forget hay now .They may leave us sone straw if we are lucky

@Guy Smith can I ask what has been achieved so far since the summit?

My biggest concern is our govt are going to do absolutely nothing for our farmers and will sit back and watch others help their farmers out to the detriment of our own.........well those in need anyway.
I don’t expect charity but it would help if they could do something about unfair competition ie the Irish being subsided to import fodder, not that I’m against helping them out but not to the detriment of our own.

 

[Still Farming]

Their'll decide Christmas time when we are flooded most likely ?

 

[Cowcorn]

The Irish are on full invasion mode
You can forget hay now .They may leave us sone straw if we are lucky

I believe straw that is not been encouraged as we are afraid of blackgrass seed.
Maize hay,alafala etc are all on the list
I have the greatest sympathy for those British farmers who are been forced to pay exboritant prices due to irish co ops driving up prices The co ops would be better served if the advised more caution with expansion .
I can assure you i will not be a customer for imported fodder as we run a more traditonal set up with arable crops maize beet as well as dairy cows.
We will have less surplus straw to sell though.
I would hate to be a cows only farmer as variety adds spice .Your goverement is bad but unfortunately the NFU has drooped the ball to often to be taken seriously and i note Guy has yet to return to the thread bearing goodies.

 

[Guy Smith]

@Guy Smith can I ask what has been achieved so far since the summit?

The EA have shown increased flexibility on use of abstraction licences giving some irrigating farmers access to extra water.

Elsewhere on this site you can hear the NFU being accused of talking up the straw shortage thus causing too much to be baled thus causing the price to come down. I'll leave that one there.

We have drawn DEFRAs attention to various drought relief packages being drawn up by governments elsewhere in the EU. Those conversations continue.

We have always pressed for more timely BPS and CS payments. We have now reminded government that financial problems caused by the summer drought have made this even more important.

We have got some timely warnings out about fire risk in the countryside via the national and local press and broadcast media. We have got timely warnings about fire risk and advice as to how it can be mitigated to the farming industry.

We've made it rain

 

[Guy Smith]

I think our drought summit got some general messages out to the public and politicians alike about not taking food production for granted.

I realise this isn't much use to farmers with immediate problems caused by drought but at a time when we are discussing as a nation how and from where we should be fed, I think politically these messages of ours were very important and very timely.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

The EA have shown increased flexibility on use of abstraction licences giving some irrigating farmers access to extra water.

Elsewhere on this site you can hear the NFU being accused of talking up the straw shortage thus causing too much to be baled thus causing the price to come down. I'll leave that one there.

We have drawn DEFRAs attention to various drought relief packages being drawn up by governments elsewhere in the EU. Those conversations continue.

We have always pressed for more timely BPS and CS payments. We have now reminded government that financial problems caused by the summer drought have made this even more important.

We have got some timely warnings out about fire risk in the countryside via the national and local press and broadcast media. We have got timely warnings about fire risk and advice as to how it can be mitigated to the farming industry.

We've made it rain

The price off straw early in the season was driven by farmers fear of being cought out with no straw or having to pay ridiculously high prices like last winter,they had no idea before harvest what supplies woukd be like , with the drought and power stations on the hunt every where , you can't blame them can you
The problem starts when auctioneers and others who have a self interests in running the price take advantage of the situation . Ive not seen any where where the NFU got involved in that
Things are certainly looking better than they were, reports are that Ireland are backing off a little although the prices some of them are offering for hay is putting it way out if reach of our local farmers

 

[PaulNix]

Don't worry Gove will do what it takes......... Once all the saleable fodder has already left the country on subsidised lorries or in AD plants storage, am betting the what it takes will be to set a target for a % of the payments to be made before next may !
NFU will sort the job out as well, the next drought we get we will all be able ( once no doubt we have applied for abstraction licences which will takes months ) to sell water from dry rivers to irrigate someone elses crops for AD plants.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I would say to anyone who is wanting straw get it now .

 

[An Gof]

The EA have shown increased flexibility on use of abstraction licences giving some irrigating farmers access to extra water.

Elsewhere on this site you can hear the NFU being accused of talking up the straw shortage thus causing too much to be baled thus causing the price to come down. I'll leave that one there.

We have drawn DEFRAs attention to various drought relief packages being drawn up by governments elsewhere in the EU. Those conversations continue.

We have always pressed for more timely BPS and CS payments. We have now reminded government that financial problems caused by the summer drought have made this even more important.

We have got some timely warnings out about fire risk in the countryside via the national and local press and broadcast media. We have got timely warnings about fire risk and advice as to how it can be mitigated to the farming industry.

We've made it rain

Been raining all morning here, typical as always, you just can't keep it to yourself

 

[Goweresque]

My biggest concern is our govt are going to do absolutely nothing for our farmers and will sit back and watch others help their farmers out to the detriment of our own.........well those in need anyway.
I don’t expect charity but it would help if they could do something about unfair competition ie the Irish being subsided to import fodder, not that I’m against helping them out but not to the detriment of our own.

I quite agree - I think there is a significant danger of a really serious fodder shortage come late winter. Everyone is assuming that because there's been a bit a rain recently that everything is going back to 'normal' and whats been lost in production and early consumption will somehow be made good from here on. Well what if it isn't? What if the rest of summer and into the autumn is still drier that normal? That there won't be much second/third cut to be made, and what grass there is will soon be grazed by livestock anyway? What if we have a early start to winter with cold snaps in early Nov?

The Irish are doing exactly the right thing, acting now, not waiting until there's livestock with no food or bedding, while Defra and NFU announce grand plans to allow more irrigation. I mean for goodness sake, this a grassland crisis more than anything, what % of grassland is irrigated anyway????

 

[DRC]

Despite what Gove said , the big potato grower locally has been made to stop irrigating. They are now seriously worried about harvesting in dry conditions, as it bruises the potatoes, which then won't store.
So what has the summit achieved?

 

[gone up the hill]

I think everyone knew that this summit was just window dressing by the NFU and nothing more/ nothing less.

Fair to say so far this NFU summit has achieved nothing other than sadly showing up Minette Batters as a very under performing NFU president.