Noble foods free range

[Tom.6420]

Noble price before drops.
V Large 92p
Large 92p
Medium 86p

These are prices before scheme bonus 3p and any other top ups ie new shed bonus.

 

[Daniel]

Noble price before drops.
V Large 92p
Large 92p
Medium 86p

These are prices before scheme bonus 3p and any other top ups ie new shed bonus.

So

94p VL

94p L

79p M.

If you've got finance to pay then that is a loss making price.

Those scheme bonuses from whichever packer are more than eaten up by the fact feed bought through the scheme costs roughly £25/t more than the free market price.

We used to ring Nobles (and our current packers) when we get price cuts to 'discuss' the reasoning, and are usually told something like 'you're the only ones who're complaning' or ' we haven't had many complaints

Why? What is wrong with producers that they just sit back and accept the fact they are being shafted?!! Every farmer in Wales and Northern Ireland has been encouraged to build a shed with the utterly predictable result that the market has been flooded with egg, who's fault is that?!

I guess those on feed trackers are unaffected?

 

[wellingtonfarmer]

So

94p VL

94p L

79p M.

If you've got finance to pay then that is a loss making price.

Those scheme bonuses from whichever packer are more than eaten up by the fact feed bought through the scheme costs roughly £25/t more than the free market price.

We used to ring Nobles (and our current packers) when we get price cuts to 'discuss' the reasoning, and are usually told something like 'you're the only ones who're complaning' or ' we haven't had many complaints

Why? What is wrong with producers that they just sit back and accept the fact they are being shafted?!! Every farmer in Wales and Northern Ireland has been encouraged to build a shed with the utterly predictable result that the market has been flooded with egg, who's fault is that?!

I guess those on feed trackers are unaffected?

What price you paying for feed?

 

[Daniel]

What price you paying for feed?

£238 for peak lay, booked back at harvest through till March.

Not sure I guessed right given the wheat price is dropping away?

 

[Tom.6420]

No that's good in comparison to noble feed. We booked in early July peak lay £261 all the way through to July 2019

 

[Frodo2]

Problem with feed is are you comparing apples with apples? Yes other suppliers will sell a cheaper feed, but plenty non Noble "experts" will tell you feed consumption is higher or bird health is better on such and such ration. That said I am paying a fair bit more than either of you, but at the moment I am not fixed.

 

[Daniel]

All im saying is get quotes from a few different feed companies on the same day, compare the spec sheets and make a judgement call.

Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[Bones]

Get chain feeders speeded up, we used to feed 1600 birds 2100 kgs per day , now with different cogs in motors and keeping a closer eye on the feeds , we reduced it to slightly below 1700 kgs, every two and half days you save 1 ton of meal and birds doing great,, unfortunately this is the type of things we all have to think of in the future to try to beat the cuts,

 

[Tom.6420]

Get chain feeders speeded up, we used to feed 1600 birds 2100 kgs per day , now with different cogs in motors and keeping a closer eye on the feeds , we reduced it to slightly below 1700 kgs, every two and half days you save 1 ton of meal and birds doing great,, unfortunately this is the type of things we all have to think of in the future to try to beat the cuts,

Just over 100g/bird/day surely this is cage birds not free range?

 

[Bones]

Just over 100g/bird/day surely this is cage birds not free range?

Free range

 

[wellingtonfarmer]

Get chain feeders speeded up, we used to feed 1600 birds 2100 kgs per day , now with different cogs in motors and keeping a closer eye on the feeds , we reduced it to slightly below 1700 kgs, every two and half days you save 1 ton of meal and birds doing great,, unfortunately this is the type of things we all have to think of in the future to try to beat the cuts,

Why does speed of chains make any difference?

 

[Bones]

Why does speed of chains make any difference?

In the past it took that long for the meal to come back round the house , the birds would eat it before it could come back, any one who has a multieteir system will understand

 

[Frodo2]

In the past it took that long for the meal to come back round the house , the birds would eat it before it could come back, any one who has a multieteir system will understand

Why does that matter? I try and keep feed in the track at all times anyway. Obviously hens still prefer fresh food.

 

[Bones]

Why does that matter? I try and keep feed in the track at all times anyway. Obviously hens still prefer fresh food.

The feeders were to slow , you could end up feeding a ton of meal before it came back thick in the first feed,

 

[wellingtonfarmer]

In the past it took that long for the meal to come back round the house , the birds would eat it before it could come back, any one who has a multieteir system will understand

I have multi tier and have know idea what you mean?

It takes 9 mins to do a circuit of a 16k shed

How many feeds you doing?

 

[Daniel]

I have multi tier and have know idea what you mean?

It takes 9 mins to do a circuit of a 16k shed

How many feeds you doing?

I don't follow his logic either.

What do you reckon your peak ration is costing?

 

[Frodo2]

I remember when researching equipment one rep was keen on pan feeders (can't remember what and how they fitted a system) his theory was the minute the feed started every bird was fed (there was sufficient feed in the feed line to instantly fill the pans) so you didn't get stress from crowding etc. Perhaps your chain speed is the similar concept.

 

[Courier]

........

If you've got finance to pay then that is a loss making price.

And if you have no finance to pay then you are entitled to get the equivalent for your investment.......

 

[wellingtonfarmer]

I don't follow his logic either.

What do you reckon your peak ration is costing?

Balancer is £400 @34.5%
Wheat £175@ 57%
Oats £140 @7.5%
Soya oil £600 @ 1%

£254.25 for a gm free ration.

Have increased oats to 10% now.

 

[Daniel]

Balancer is £400 @34.5%
Wheat £175@ 57%
Oats £140 @7.5%
Soya oil £600 @ 1%

£254.25 for a gm free ration.

Have increased oats to 10% now.

That's pretty good for GM free? And you know exactly what's in it.

Presume the oats are to increase fibre levels? We've had our ration boosted to 4.75% fibre from about 3.2% for this flock, too early to tell if its helping, not exactly sure what they've used to achieve it.