Non CE sheds

[Frank_farmer]

No doubt by now there is a template you fill in to get it

 

[opininionated]

No doubt by now there is a template you fill in to get it

Along with a cheque to write out.

 

[the-mad-welder]

How difficult are you finding the process? And how much do you think it will cost, both initially and annually thereafter?

It's a lot easier if you've got the right person helping you. I've been doing it in small steps gradually and we've been working out a system to suit how I work rather than altering how I work to suit a system written by someone else. I won't lie, there is paperwork, but the thing is to minmise it and make it as some as you can. If it's easy to do its not so much of a ball ache and you're more likely to keep up to date with it. Dearest part is probably the weld tests. The trick here is to look at your range of work and get it down to as few procedures as possible and have a good RWC (responsible welding coordinator). The welding is really the main focus of all this and is the bit that needs to be right.

 

[the-mad-welder]

No doubt by now there is a template you fill in to get it

You can do it like that but you'll pay through the nose and have to change the way you work. You can buy pre approved weld procedures, but then you have to weld how someone else does. Do your own and then it's more or less how you weld now and then it's easier to replicate on an actual job.

 

[opininionated]

It's a lot easier if you've got the right person helping you. I've been doing it in small steps gradually and we've been working out a system to suit how I work rather than altering how I work to suit a system written by someone else. I won't lie, there is paperwork, but the thing is to minmise it and make it as some as you can. If it's easy to do its not so much of a ball ache and you're more likely to keep up to date with it. Dearest part is probably the weld tests. The trick here is to look at your range of work and get it down to as few procedures as possible and have a good RWC (responsible welding coordinator). The welding is really the main focus of all this and is the bit that needs to be right.

Interesting..
What is, and where do you find an RWC?

 

[the-mad-welder]

RWC=responsible welding coordinator. I found mine via my welding supplier. They got him to do seminars about EN1090 for their customers. Steel supplier might be worth an ask as well as some are helpful.

 

[opininionated]

And he instructs you, then examines sample welds that are appropriate for the designs you use?

 

[opininionated]

[QUOabove!he-mad-welder, post: 2940744, member: 2493"]RWC=responsible welding coordinator. I found mine via my welding supplier. They got him to do seminars about EN1090 for their customers. Steel supplier might be worth an ask as well as some are helpful.[/QUOTE]
See above!

 

[the-mad-welder]

And he instructs you, then examines sample welds that are appropriate for the designs you use?

Kind of. In simple terms, unless you are also a structural engineer as well you are not allowed to 'design' anything yourself. It has to be specified by the customer or a structural engineer you have commissioned. If you have a 'way' you make an item, you can say to the customer "this is what I have, is that suitable for your needs? " and get them to sign something to declare this. A customer turns up with a set of drawings or even a sketch they are happy with. As long as it has all the required information on, you can make it as you didn't design it. If there is any info missing, send them away to find it out or tell them what you can do and get them to sign to say they are happy with it. Most common thing left off drawings seem to be weld sizes and steel grades, both of which are essential for 1090.

 

[Blackleg]

You can be your own RWC

http://www.twi-global.com/technical...e-welding-co-ordinator-is-properly-qualified/

Good luck with getting 1090 @the-mad-welder

 

[the-mad-welder]

You can be your own RWC

http://www.twi-global.com/technical...e-welding-co-ordinator-is-properly-qualified/

Good luck with getting 1090 @the-mad-welder

Thanks!!
Mine is infinitely more qualified and knowledgeable than I'll ever be!! He also oversees all the weld testing and witnessing for weld procedures very efficiently. I get a favourable rate as he is my RWC as well. If you were your own RWC you'd still need someone to do this, so my current setup works well for me.

 

[designanddetail]

@the-mad-welder don't forget to get yourself a good, reliable structural engineer in place to do you building designs, ideally one who can produce your fabrication drawings to meet CE regulation too....

 

[the-mad-welder]

@the-mad-welder don't forget to get yourself a good, reliable structural engineer in place to do you building designs, ideally one who can produce your fabrication drawings to meet CE regulation too....

I'm leaving all that to the customer if I can. They have to bring me the drawings of what they want. I'll bear you in mine though, hint taken!!

 

[MD @Minshall Buildings]

Not sure why there is a negative view of CE for buildings. Yes is it did come from EU wanting consistent standards to help level the playing field, but for those who have adopted it it helps us ensure consistency of process that can only improve quality. Granted it doesn't guarantee quality of welding etc but as all welders have to be coded and an RWC has to oversee regularly then customers should feel confident that standards are in place. No company spends the money CE costs only to then produce poor work.
Poor quality usually comes from inadequate training, lack of consistent process or too much haste in trying to get down to a price!.......Quality costs and CE helps deliver consistency of process if nothing else.