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Imagine if he fed them how much milk they would giveBarely worth getting out of bed to milk at that level, you might as well just dry off and have a nice holiday.
Imagine if he fed them how much milk they would giveBarely worth getting out of bed to milk at that level, you might as well just dry off and have a nice holiday.
Barely worth getting out of bed to milk at that level, you might as well just dry off and have a nice holiday.
We have a consultant that we use 4 times a year but rarely get nutritional advice, too many people trying to sell you something these days and if it makes no difference they don’t give you back the money you’ve spent. Would rather push on and work harder at doing a better job ourselves
On the other hand if good advice leads to more cows in calf it's a good thing, even at the expense of more cake.We have a consultant that we use 4 times a year but rarely get nutritional advice, too many people trying to sell you something these days and if it makes no difference they don’t give you back the money you’ve spent. Would rather push on and work harder at doing a better job ourselves
we have bought loads of out of pattern cows over the years, either dry, or stale. virtually all responded to better feeding, as in autumn block, I would think that they would average 7500 litres, fair few would be 8/9000, the longer established spring herds, would give us a decent sized cow, cull value, and a decent calf, I accept some calves will cr#p- its easy calving i'm more interested in. and a decent milk yield, and at a price which is much lower than rearing a lot of hfrs. we do rear our own hfrs as well. so to answer the quote, presumably, you could end up with a good yield say 8000 liters, but the ethos is milk from forage, so where do you draw a line?Imagine if he fed them how much milk they would give
Yes I think @buffalo_soldier would have one or two doing 9000kgwe have bought loads of out of pattern cows over the years, either dry, or stale. virtually all responded to better feeding, as in autumn block, I would think that they would average 7500 litres, fair few would be 8/9000, the longer established spring herds, would give us a decent sized cow, cull value, and a decent calf, I accept some calves will cr#p- its easy calving i'm more interested in. and a decent milk yield, and at a price which is much lower than rearing a lot of hfrs. we do rear our own hfrs as well. so to answer the quote, presumably, you could end up with a good yield say 8000 liters, but the ethos is milk from forage, so where do you draw a line?
Your yields and system wouldn’t be that different from @Grassman247 would they ?God people love complication. Without much benefit
I actually doubt he wouldYes I think @buffalo_soldier would have one or two doing 9000kg
I think so but he’s very modest1
I actually doubt he would
Our yield is 2000 litres or 25% less. That’s massive when relying on grass. Replacement rates can soon gobble up that difference.Your yields and system wouldn’t be that different from @Grassman247 would they ?
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I actually doubt he would
Our yield is 2000 litres or 25% less. That’s massive when relying on grass. Replacement rates can soon gobble up that difference.
I fully agree but my point is if someone sells something into me I hold them accountable. It’s not just a sell it and sod off. My nutritionist/ cake rep would’ve been on me way before 4 years investigating that
What weight are your cows? And whats your breeding strategy to get that sort of yield from a nz friesian?
Cows will be 650kg plus, heifers tend to bull around the 390kg mark
As for breeding, have never touched genomics and never will especially after working for a fella in NZ called Leo donkers back in 07,
Always use a proven bull, 1 maybe 2 per year with 90% plus reliability and plenty of daughters and every trait needs to be a positive.
Moved away from NZ genetics as we felt some of the cattle were becoming “inbred” teats pointing every direction, twisted front feet and the odd calf with a twisted face or funny tail. Switched to Norwegian red and have used some Holstein this year on the smaller reds.
Will probably head back to the NZ catalogue next year
I think better management of the cows and grass probably has more to do with the yield increase. We aren’t afraid to use the topper and are happy not to make the cows eat the bogs.