Northern Ireland Milk Price Tracker

[thewalrus]

Milk price is one side of it and it’s not enough but the other hand is our costs and how much of our money is going to buy your neighbour a nice new car because you spend a fortune on fertiliser or machinery or land rent you maybe don’t need if you rejigged the system. We really need to ask ourselves what way we are farming and can we do it any differently because maybe if we dropped a 500 / 1000 litres a cow , got rid of the diet feeder or cut the meal, we maybe would see a healthier cow or a healthier farmer . Maybe if the system Destressed maybe it wouldn’t be as bad a we think it would be.

Or even how we get the liters we get. Focus on better silage And grass management Can lead to higher yields and less meal

 

[mixed farm]

Milk price is one side of it and it’s not enough but the other hand is our costs and how much of our money is going to buy your neighbour a nice new car because you spend a fortune on fertiliser or machinery or land rent you maybe don’t need if you rejigged the system. We really need to ask ourselves what way we are farming and can we do it any differently because maybe if we dropped a 500 / 1000 litres a cow , got rid of the diet feeder or cut the meal, we maybe would see a healthier cow or a healthier farmer . Maybe if the system Destressed maybe it wouldn’t be as bad a we think it would be.

Really like that post, I presume it's the same up north but down south we dairy men complain about importing south American beef but we(and I include myself) have no problem importing their soya. I'm fairly highly stocked and borrowed but would like to see derogation (which I'm in) scrapped and cow numbers cut. I think we'd all be better off. Imagine if we all had a €25k fertiliser deduction and another 50k meal deduction. There's a lot of earning in that.

 

[Whitewalker]

Really like that post, I presume it's the same up north but down south we dairy men complain about importing south American beef but we(and I include myself) have no problem importing their soya. I'm fairly highly stocked and borrowed but would like to see derogation (which I'm in) scrapped and cow numbers cut. I think we'd all be better off. Imagine if we all had a €25k fertiliser deduction and another 50k meal deduction. There's a lot of earning in that.

Really like that post, I presume it's the same up north but down south we dairy men complain about importing south American beef but we(and I include myself) have no problem importing their soya. I'm fairly highly stocked and borrowed but would like to see derogation (which I'm in) scrapped and cow numbers cut. I think we'd all be better off. Imagine if we all had a €25k fertiliser deduction and another 50k meal deduction. There's a lot of earning in that.

can you move your business towards a 25k fertiliser and50k meal reduction . Maybe you can maybe you can’t but it’s up 2 you . We all need to think outside what others are doing and take ownership of our decisions. Forget about the derogation if you can live without it whether others need it or not.

 

[mixed farm]

can you move your business towards a 25k fertiliser and50k meal reduction . Maybe you can maybe you can’t but it’s up 2 you . We all need to think outside what others are doing and take ownership of our decisions. Forget about the derogation if you can live without it whether others need it or not.

Well sure we could all live on 10 cows but It's not really that simple. With margins being squeezed it's a numbers game, So if expansion was restricted for every one it would mean that you wouldn't have to keep getting bigger just to stand still.

 

[Cowcorn]

Really like that post, I presume it's the same up north but down south we dairy men complain about importing south American beef but we(and I include myself) have no problem importing their soya. I'm fairly highly stocked and borrowed but would like to see derogation (which I'm in) scrapped and cow numbers cut. I think we'd all be better off. Imagine if we all had a €25k fertiliser deduction and another 50k meal deduction. There's a lot of earning in that.

Couldnt agree more . If the derogation was gone and the " paper " transfer of slurry banned then some level of supply control might prevail . I often wonder if qoutas were still in place what price a litre of milk might be ?? This cheap food nonsense is killing us the primary producer slowly . People were never as well off and never spent as little o n food . Z in his great wisdom is correct you might as well try to herd cats as get farmers to do what is good for them .
For those of you who are heavy meal feeders ask yourself how many are you carrying on your back . What price is a ton of 18 % nuts now ?? This harvest green barley will struggle to make 140 euro a ton . Never had any problems with rolled barley and hulls and gluten mixed with the loader and costing a lot less than nuts .
Lakelands are by no means the best payers but the are not at the bottom of the milk league either. Present milk prices are ok if you get the milk of owned grass and a few pound of meal but are not worth a toss for winter production .

 

[Whitewalker]

Spoke to a guy from cork at the last dairy fair, “ wow I thought it was bad down south, look how many live off the back of the old cow up here “

 

[thewalrus]

Couldnt agree more . If the derogation was gone and the " paper " transfer of slurry banned then some level of supply control might prevail . I often wonder if qoutas were still in place what price a litre of milk might be ?? This cheap food nonsense is killing us the primary producer slowly . People were never as well off and never spent as little o n food . Z in his great wisdom is correct you might as well try to herd cats as get farmers to do what is good for them .
For those of you who are heavy meal feeders ask yourself how many are you carrying on your back . What price is a ton of 18 % nuts now ?? This harvest green barley will struggle to make 140 euro a ton . Never had any problems with rolled barley and hulls and gluten mixed with the loader and costing a lot less than nuts .
Lakelands are by no means the best payers but the are not at the bottom of the milk league either. Present milk prices are ok if you get the milk of owned grass and a few pound of meal but are not worth a toss for winter production .

the problem with quotas was there was no spare money as it all went buying/leasing quota!

 

[yin ewe]

the problem with quotas was there was no spare money as it all went buying/leasing quota!

Very true cos I don't know what to do with my spare money at the moment.

 

[thewalrus]

Very true cos I don't know what to do with my spare money at the moment.

Lely?

 

[yin ewe]

Given them enough..................................for now.

 

[Wishful Thinker]

Exactly this we've been fed the same rubbish over and over again, apart from some fairly rare occasions df have been lagging behind the others for years now.......o unless you're a new entrant, then there's money for everything.

Here lay off the new entrants. Sure it was shown it’s costing very little over full milk pool and it takes a bit of fresh blood to stop the old girl from creeking too much.
Problem is these part time farmers subsidising milk with another wage

 

[Happy at it]

Here lay off the new entrants. Sure it was shown it’s costing very little over full milk pool and it takes a bit of fresh blood to stop the old girl from creeking too much.
Problem is these part time farmers subsidising milk with another wage

What were the incentives, 3pence over base for the first year and help with the tank?

 

[yin ewe]

Here lay off the new entrants. Sure it was shown it’s costing very little over full milk pool and it takes a bit of fresh blood to stop the old girl from creeking too much.
Problem is these part time farmers subsidising milk with another wage

6 months at 17p would sort a ween of you youngsters out.
Be a long time getting rich on my part-time wages, we both know that

 

[Wishful Thinker]

What were the incentives, 3pence over base for the first year and help with the tank?

Really only 9 months as isn’t paid over summer.
help with tank but has to be bought through tankcare, not as exciting as first appears.

 

[Wishful Thinker]

6 months at 17p would sort a ween of you youngsters out.
Be a long time getting rich on my part-time wages, we both know that

When you come from sucklers you get used to farming on a shoe string

 

[it's not over]

If I get another 6 years done some other mug can milk cows for 24p.
I'm off

 

[thewalrus]

If I get another 6 years done some other mug can milk cows for 24p.
I'm off

im sure you probably said something similar 6 years ago. Sure what else would you be at?

 

[yin ewe]

If I get another 6 years done some other mug can milk cows for 24p.
I'm off

Sure what else would you do, as my brother always tells me, go and live in a house on the main street of Broughshane and see how long you stick it. Not sure I'll be ready for that in 6 years - 26 maybe.

 

[Aircooled]

3t a cow men round here seem to be doing ok. One just bought a nice farm for 1.2 . I feed less, have more milk from forage but can't buy ground at 12k/acre and make it worth the bother.
( Sfp main factor ofcourse)

 

[boumaticboy]

3t a cow men round here seem to be doing ok. One just bought a nice farm for 1.2 . I feed less, have more milk from forage but can't buy ground at 12k/acre and make it worth the bother.
( Sfp main factor ofcourse)

"seem to be doing ok" is the key. you dont know how many sleepness nights they have with big borrowings or they had a great aunt who left them half a mill. i ve heard of boys buying ground interest only payments. surely theyre only renting it off the bank