So would the 4/60 be ok for ploughing matches with a 2 furrow plough ?The 10/60 is the later of the 2, it will have a 10-speed 2-range gearbox same as the Leylands, the 4/60 only has 5 gears.
Funny you mention that... I was ploughing last week in a roadside field when this appeared, a 1959-ish 3/42 3-cylinder, with 5-speed box and diff-lock. The guy wanted to do a bit of ploughing with it to clean up his plough (single-furrow Sellar), with a view to doing ploughing matches. So I parked my tractor and watched him
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To answer your question I would think either would be fine, I don't know if diff-lock was standard at that age? It would certainly be useful
Buttock clenchingBoth can suffer liner problems due to the 100 mm bore. Other than that, the 10 60 would be the better bet, due to the extra gears.I dont know if diff lock was standard, but it certainly was an option. They are some of the best tractors around for match ploughing, being built to pull the implement, rather than carry it they dont suffer traction loss when the depth wheel is in use. Both 4 60 and 10 60 on the farm here used to handle four ten inch furrows, so they wont notice your two! As a further example of the suitability for match ploughing, I used a universal four with a world style plough for many years, till advancing years drove me into a cab!
One thing they wont have is brakes! The dry disks fitted are next to useless, and can lead to buttock clenching moments!
Very useful information thanksHad both in the sixties and you would be fine with either. I always thought the 460 was the best tractor of the two. Both have a diff lock and draught control. The gearbox on the 10/60 was a bit of a mess as you had to use both levers all the time as it was basically the 5 speed box with a high and low in each ratio. The 460 had drum brakes which worked well while the 10/60 had self energising dry discs which tended to either do nothing if you applied light pressure to the pedal or if you applied a little or pressure they locked the wheels. Both would be fine but you would be in the Classic class as neither were in production in December 1959. The Universal 4 and earlier models would be in the vintage class.
The only problem is they are a heavy tractor to move around on a trailer.
For vintage you would need a Universal four.They can be found with live drive, and a diff lock was an option. If you cant find one with a diff lock, its quite simple to fit a unit from a four or ten sixty. Good thing with the universal four is no liner problems
Any stopping is most likely to be done in a hurry, with plenty of noise! Just a bit farther down the road than you wanted1060 everyone
Fit some syncro final drives and hey presto you have 30mph just don't think about stopping in a hurry
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Is that so ?I am amazed that any one can plough competivly with a Nuffield as the ones we had used to have a lot of slap in the steering