OSR after spring barley

[Brisel]

Are you confident it would actually slice through? The stuff is so ropey that when we run over with the 750a discs it does struggle to cut through it.

I never got the chance to try the leading disc this autumn. I chopped a field ready but it started raining & never stopped long enough for it to dry out enough to drill the cover crop. My drill has the stone release kit & the entire weight of the unit on them once the wheels are lifting up so I'd bet it has more downward pressure than a 750A. I'll see what pressure is wise in the rams though - hitting a big sand stone could be messy...

If it hair pins straw into the slot the coulter tine should sweep it out of the way. If not I'll run the Carrier over it with the discs fully down to loosen the top & hope that slop goes through the drill. Hopefully I'll have a newer combine with a better chopper next summer. Leaving the stubble longer will help but it depends on the brackling as to cutting height. Baling straw is such a ball ache when it rains all of August! Every year we lose 2-3 weeks to rain over here. This time it rained on average every other day from the start of harvest to the end!

 

[JCfarmer]

How do you all establish OSR after spring barley. Ground is always tighter and drier after barley than wheat but to implement the rotation I think will work best here I would need to do this. Father says it won't work and to be fair I decided not to drill 50 ha this year post spring barley.

BB

Bale the straw, low disturbance subsoiler, carrier and then drill. The 40ha after sp barley has all come very well, just have to keep an eye on volunteers especially with heads on the floor as well and spray them out sooner than you think, as we know it grows like a weed!

 

[JD6920s]

I never got the chance to try the leading disc this autumn. I chopped a field ready but it started raining & never stopped long enough for it to dry out enough to drill the cover crop. My drill has the stone release kit & the entire weight of the unit on them once the wheels are lifting up so I'd bet it has more downward pressure than a 750A. I'll see what pressure is wise in the rams though - hitting a big sand stone could be messy...

If it hair pins straw into the slot the coulter tine should sweep it out of the way. If not I'll run the Carrier over it with the discs fully down to loosen the top & hope that slop goes through the drill. Hopefully I'll have a newer combine with a better chopper next summer. Leaving the stubble longer will help but it depends on the brackling as to cutting height. Baling straw is such a ball ache when it rains all of August! Every year we lose 2-3 weeks to rain over here. This time it rained on average every other day from the start of harvest to the end!

I had a set of discs for our hybrid two years ago and found that when the A share was at correct seeding depth the disc was so deep it was running the bearing hub on the surface, even in the highest hole on the leg.
I returned them, as we have some stone and I couldn’t see them lasting long when they were all the way in.
I’m not sure if the disc leg angle has been altered but that is what I felt was needed.
Ideally I would like to make a subframe to run between the tractor and drill which would carry a disc running in front of each ripper tine, so as to have the best of both worlds.

 

[Brisel]

The trailed Hybrids have shouldered leading discs as an option instead of wheels

 

[MrNoo]

All our OSR goes in after SB, sometimes the straw is baled but latterly not, I have a seeder box on the back of a Weaving sub disc, I run it with the discs lifted out of work. Always give it some fert after drilling, has worked well here and no need to put the legs in deep so can fairly knock on.

 

[juke]

Why the change to a leading disc and narrower share? I think the leading tine works really nicely as a row cleaner. Would the disc do that?

the disc will chop through no bother , it doesn't work aswell as the leg as a row cleaner. worn A shares are claydons little hack , then drop the splitter boot off either leaving the splitter boot of or putting the bean boot on.

 

[Northdowns Martin]

Don’t apply Liberator to your spring barley or probably any other residue herb for that matter! It has severally hit mine and taken all its vigour. Plants have survived by only just to establish a crop. It was DD using a C04 Horsch with Dutch openers straw removed. Had we planted with the subsoiled it may well have broken up the chemical barrier.

 

[Tom H]

Straight in with sprinter and Dutch's placing liquid. Straw removed as a whole. Will drill into chopped if its dry at drilling. crop looks great. Full CTF with RLM pulling up wheeling's. 4th year. 400ha of OSR drilled in 3 days.

 

[ajd132]

Straight in with sprinter and Dutch's placing liquid. Straw removed as a whole. Will drill into chopped if its dry at drilling. crop looks great. Full CTF with RLM pulling up wheeling's. 4th year. 400ha of OSR drilled in 3 days.

1 or 5 inch?

 

[Alfie]

Buy a cross slot Banana Bar!!! [emoji12]
Thinking forward I'd consider taking straw off ahead of osr (baling) then using a wide machine with a tine at 500mm centres to sow osr. If it's dry then double roll at opposing angles.

I really like Andrew Wards elita for getting osr in quickly and you've got the horses to pull it.

 

[Will7]

We've got a Dale drill which I've drilled 350 ha of OSR with this year. On the whole very pleased apart from a few headlands and combine wheelings. We used to run a subsoiler with seeder unit down to claydon type coulters and I think this may be my best bet in this position, unfortunately it's 3 m wide with 7 legs and needs 300 hp to get on. Ideally want to drill 400 ha of OSR next year in a week. Would need a very low disturbance subsoiling leg now to replace the solo type. Any ideas on this?

BB

I use 9 tillso ultralite legs at 8" at 450mm spacings. Takes 340hp to pull it and can do 30+ha per day. After spring barley I would bale the straw to save a lot of hassle.

 

[Tom H]

1 or 5 inch?

5inch as when using the 1inch I found it chiselled a slot that the tyre press and rolls couldn't consolidate. the 5 allows better consolidation. yes moves more soil but its only very shallow.

 

[limestone brash]

We have min tilled a fair bit of OSR after SB as grow most of our OSR after SB but the chopped straw has a tendancy to bung up the drill and block the land wheel causing misses
ploughing FB combination is usually a good bet though

 

[Bobthebuilder]

We have a 72ac field that was half winter and half spring barley, it was sown into OSR with a 1 pass simba solo machine with liquid N down the spout and slug pellets, the half that was SB looks better than the half that was WB

 

[Brisel]

We have a 72ac field that was half winter and half spring barley, it was sown into OSR with a 1 pass simba solo machine with liquid N down the spout and slug pellets, the half that was SB looks better than the half that was WB

Is that the one you posted a picture of a while ago? Did you ever get an answer to that?

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Is that the one you posted a picture of a while ago? Did you ever get an answer to that?

ey the same 1, never really got to the bottom of it

 

[Farma Parma]

ey the same 1, never really got to the bottom of it

i drove up the side of that field Bob & i know see what you mean.... its a head scratcher.
Ripped up my only SB field which had straw removed, used Horsch Terrano, then combi drilled it 2days later.
its come on really well considering in was mid sept when i did this.
it had sum fert on the stubble which id say has helped no end.
Invigor-1035 variety (Bayer) looked by far the best in Trials i seen earlier in the year.