Outpourings from Ben Goldsmith recently

[Bobby Spray]

If Goldschmit (sic) thinks farming is evil. I wonder what he thinks of the business dealings of his father? Which could be described as the most evil in British history. An evil that made his dad a billionaire and provides Ben the comfortable life where he never has to work and can spent his days talking rubbish like this?

 

[3650]

He is very hypocritical. His day job is CEO of an investment firm called Menhaden who invest many millions in Airbus - a rather large contributor to greenhouse gas emissions, conveniently not listed as territorial emissions and great a great beneficiary from tax free aviation fuel.
He's either very calculating or somewhat dim or both - there's never any analysis of problems in the food chain in his arguments as he just likes to launch utterly simplistic attacks on farmers.

 

[Swarfmonkey]

Never mistake low down dirty cunning for intelligence.

He's a self-serving crooked little shyte. What else would you call someone who finagled their way onto the DEFRA board in a process overseen by someone who works for his company (namely Sir Ian Cheshire) who then goes on to push ELMS through as DEFRA policy, only to co-found a company (Nattergal) that buys estates to cash in on ELMS?

And that lot is barely scratching the surface of what the little turd has been up to...

 

[HatsOff]

Has Private Eye done any digging?

 

[gatepost]

Ironic in some ways that he should be complaining about the rise in deer numbers, isn't that a sign of wildlife recovery. Oh hang on the wrong sort of nature for what he wants, trashing his young trees presumably.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Never mistake low down dirty cunning for intelligence.

He's a self-serving crooked little shyte. What else would you call someone who finagled their way onto the DEFRA board in a process overseen by someone who works for his company (namely Sir Ian Cheshire) who then goes on to push ELMS through as DEFRA policy, only to co-found a company (Nattergal) that buys estates to cash in on ELMS?

And that lot is barely scratching the surface of what the little turd has been up to...

Is this thread about Ben Goldsmith or the idea that habitat could be improved in the UK?

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Ironic in some ways that he should be complaining about the rise in deer numbers, isn't that a sign of wildlife recovery. Oh hang on the wrong sort of nature for what he wants, trashing his young trees presumably.

It more about the balance of nature. There's inadequate control of deer numbers and habitat is being browsed out. Natural predators would address that problem.

 

[gatepost]

Is this thread about Ben Goldsmith or the idea that habitat could be improved in the UK?

Possibly a bit of both, he said in a diplomatic way! However it is difficult to always take the Goldsmiths' of the world seriously, they will never have to worry about buying a dodgy second hand tractor or if they can pay the electric bill on their council tower block flat, and they forget that every pound of their mostly inherited millions has come out of someone else's pocket, ''you show me a millionaire and I'll show you 999999 folk who are short of a pound'' .

 

[gatepost]

It more about the balance of nature. There's inadequate control of deer numbers and habitat is being browsed out. Natural predators would address that problem.

A rifle will also address the problem and you get to eat some delicious stew, I am fully aware of what you say, and as our farm is little more than rough ground, have let nature take over/keep chunks of it, which gives me great pleasure, and there are areas where ( we may not like it) some commentators make valid points, but I don't need wealthy investment brokers to manage the peasants.

 

[L P]

A rifle will also address the problem and you get to eat some delicious stew, I am fully aware of what you say, and as our farm is little more that rough ground, have let nature take over/keep chunks of it, which gives me great pleasure, and there are areas where ( we may not like it) some commentators make valid points, but I don't need wealthy investment brokers to manage the peasants.

The wolves will have to be genetically modified to only hunt deer during the day to stay within the law.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Possibly a bit of both, he said in a diplomatic way! However it is difficult to always take the Goldsmiths' of the world seriously, they will never have to worry about buying a dodgy second hand tractor or if they can pay the electric bill on their council tower block flat, and they forget that every pound of their mostly inherited millions has come out of someone else's pocket, ''you show me a millionaire and I'll show you 999999 folk who are short of a pound'' .

If ever an industry was built on inherited wealth, it's farming.

 

[gatepost]

If ever an industry was built on inherited wealth, it's farming.

have a read of,' Who owns England', some kind soul gave it to me to read while I got over my heart attack, not sure what they wanted the outcome to be.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

A few days at harvest up and down the combine steps pulling barrow loads of mole hill soil and stones off the combine bed in a laid crop of barley might change his mind about moles.
You have to wonder what kind of mess we’d end up in with these blokes in charge? We don’t trap every mole but there’s a limit to how many we can tolerate before they have a serious effect on mowing and harvesting never mind crop thinning prior to that.
As for wolves and lynx, what planet is he on?

What do you mean if we had these blokes in charge, I think they allready are!

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Classic example of a bloke with a large garden who thinks he knows it all. I'd rank him as being even more uninformed than George Monbiot which is a lofty aspiration indeed. I mean sheep dip in drinking water, FFS.

How about cocaine in river water, or female hormones in drinking water

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Classic example of a bloke with a large garden who thinks he knows it all. I'd rank him as being even more uninformed than George Monbiot which is a lofty aspiration indeed. I mean sheep dip in drinking water, FFS.

Let's be honest and see where the sheep dip actually goes, if not into the drinking water.

 

[ollie989898]

Let's be honest and see where the sheep dip actually goes, if not into the drinking water.

We know for a fact heavy metals, drug residues, microplastics and chemicals from all kinds of places end up in the sewer because we the British populace puts them there.

But no, apparently the real issue is sheep dip?



In actual fact, the problem is that this Goldsmit character has a problem with sheep. He doesn't know what sheep dip is, why it is used or anything of the sort, he just thinks sheep should be banned because 'nature'. He is just Moobat in a different suit. Sheep=flooding and 1+1=2 type logic. Only neither of them have a scoobies.

 

[jendan]

have a read of,' Who owns England', some kind soul gave it to me to read while I got over my heart attack, not sure what they wanted the outcome to be.

Whats the summary of it then ?
The Snow s did a TV documentary on it a few years ago. They thought the Aristocracy and landed gentry still owned nearly 50% of it,and most could still trace it back to William s carve up after 1066.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

We know for a fact heavy metals, drug residues, microplastics and chemicals from all kinds of places end up in the sewer because we the British populace puts them there.

But no, apparently the real issue is sheep dip?



In actual fact, the problem is that this Goldsmit character has a problem with sheep. He doesn't know what sheep dip is, why it is used or anything of the sort, he just thinks sheep should be banned because 'nature'. He is just Moobat in a different suit. Sheep=flooding and 1+1=2 type logic. Only neither of them have a scoobies.

Being honest, most human activity creates some kind of pollution. Whether it's sewage, transport, farming or industrial waste.

It's definitely not just about sheep dip.

 

[ollie989898]

Being honest, most human activity creates some kind of pollution. Whether it's sewage, transport, farming or industrial waste.

It's definitely not just about sheep dip.

Absolutely, but then why single out sheep dip?? It's illogical.

 

[gatepost]

Whats the summary of it then ?
The Snow s did a TV documentary on it a few years ago. They thought the Aristocracy and landed gentry still owned nearly 50% of it,and most could still trace it back to William s carve up after 1066.

That's about it, plus large amounts of subsidy money disappearing into off shore trusts etc then there is the ministry of defense and the forestry commission, what is interesting in the book, it does give some facts and figures.