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- Essex
I thought he had singled out the excessive deer population?
Outpourings from Ben Goldsmith recently
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Ok sorry, I was being pedantic. As well as "singling out" sheep dip, he also mentions the increasing population of wild deer and flooding on the levels.
He's having a go at the flowers now!
ollie989898
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The levels have been grazed by livestock for hundreds of years. They were water meadows, traditionally only really farmed in a big way during the summer as it would be the only land for miles in any direction that would stay green. They were managed by holding back the water with sluice gates in the summer months and also through the use of ridge and furrow- which actually encouraged water to collect on pasture and give the animals something to eat during the hot summer months.
During the hot summers we had over the last 10 years, you could go to the edge of the levels and see all the grass on the land around you burnt to a crisp- all the hills for miles would be brown. Down in the levels though, the whole place would be a green paradise by comparison.
I had clients who farmed out in that direction. One told me how his father during the heatwave in the summer of 76 just dried all his cows off, cut down a load of withy and other scrub and let the cows fend for themselves from that.
There have been floods on the levels from time to time over the last several hundred years- these have been well recorded. But that being said, as most of the landowners will happily tell you, none of the remedial work was done when the EA took charge in the 90s. They just didn't do any of it.
Far to much money, "born with a silver spoon", went to eton, i believe so knows boris? These are the "dangerous clowns", that have far to much influence on policy, but have never had to suffer, other then his personal tragedy of losing his daughter in a terrible accident? What i ment by suffer, is suffer in building, earning a living from nothing?
So much for a "private" expensive education? These so called educated lot that now dominate western, politics, are dangerous fools? At least in the past the well educated lot turned out from this etons, and harrows, and cambridge/ oxford, got some real experience of life, ie, serving, fighting and many dying both in ww1- ww2, i think that im right in saying that nearly 25 percent of the top country estates had to be sold after the end of ww1 because the heirs to the estates were killed?
Paddington
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- Soggy Shropshire
I always thought, rightly or wrongly that the Goldsmith brothers were put into power by Britain's fourth female Prime Minister, Cary Johnson. 
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- DD9.
That picture doesnt look real. Looks like the sheep have been stuck on and the shadows aren’t all in the same orientation.
ollie989898
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Whether it is real or not, who actually cares?
Is that photo of uk sheep? Sheep dip pollution must be worse than we ever imagined if dip-dripping sheep in New Zealand are contaminating uk drinking water.
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it looks like an image that’s been created to give an impression of overstocking, all part of the drip drip sheep bad, effect he’s looking to cultivate.
like the BBC’s stock video of a belarus with a 12m sprayer spraying something bright orange that plays in the background when any farming matter is discussed.
but yeah, who cares.
Is that photo of uk sheep? Sheep dip pollution must be worse than we ever imagined if dip-dripping sheep in New Zealand are contaminating uk drinking water.
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Definitely New Zealand sheep.
yellow belly
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- south west lincolnshire
if they bring back wolves who is going to protect the ramblers and dog walkers
or farmers out crop walking round here we have too many deer in some places because of mismanagment
some estates have a lot less deer than 30 years ago
we had herds or 100 plus in the 1980s
now herds are 7 to 15
but 5 miles away 500 to600 in one area
another 300 to 400 within a mile of the a1 if wolves stampeded them and forced them over the a1 there would be carnage with multiple deaths of motorists
the only humane way to control number is organised culling with a 243 scatering them would just multiply the number of road deaths and car damage
or farmers out crop walking round here we have too many deer in some places because of mismanagment
some estates have a lot less deer than 30 years ago
we had herds or 100 plus in the 1980s
now herds are 7 to 15
but 5 miles away 500 to600 in one area
another 300 to 400 within a mile of the a1 if wolves stampeded them and forced them over the a1 there would be carnage with multiple deaths of motorists
the only humane way to control number is organised culling with a 243 scatering them would just multiply the number of road deaths and car damage
What's wrong with 1+1=2 type logic? Seems, um, correct?
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
What is the material for the hoods made from? You take them out after a certain age. Lovely clean pigs and there's not many so clean
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
BnB operators should pay farmers for insulated floors too but will never happen
Tom_o_m
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Given the high interest in deer stalking it is simply illogical that herds get to that volume. That's prime meat running across the road, better in our bellies than releasing wolves into heavy populated lowlands.
Part of the issue is that a fair few people in the shooting industry are out for profit from selling guided stalks, and trophy animals, and they tie down huge swathes of land without ever actually committing to a proper management plan. They often pay the landowner more, but I doubt it makes up for the extra damage of a poorly managed deer population.