Packhams next chapter

Pilatus

Member
Location
cotswolds
May I suggest that all TFF members that dislike Packham contact his agent , David Foster management,
if you Google “Packhams Agent”
you will find David Foster Email
address, and you can ask him to forward your emails on to Packham.
I guess, a hope in hell that he actually would do that.
 

yellowbelly

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
N.Lincs
On the latest AHDB figures available the UK is slaughtering over one million sheep, one million pigs and around 80,000 cattle a month. When they walk off the wagon at the abattoir, one of the first people to see them is a vet.

If the system is as bad as Packham says, why aren't the courts full of hauliers and farmers being prosecuted?

The man is an idiot. I bet he's never been to look. He's just spotted another opportunity to keep himself in the headlines.
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Today's tweets and those of the CIWF campaign contain and spread the hashtag #stoplivetransport which is very disingenuous. The campaign website has no text merely groups of countries from various countries. The placards occasionally say #stopliveexport but I believe the campaign has been deliberately skewed to read the former
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
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I also texted Phil Lymbery CIWF CEO
 

kfpben

Member
Location
Mid Hampshire
The stop live export thing is utter shìte too as as we know.
It just panders to the xenophobes who hate foreigners. Do we really think French/Belgian/Dutch slaughterhouses are that much worse than ours?

Or do the animal rights brigade have objections to livestock going on a ferry?
 
Location
Cleveland
The stop live export thing is utter shìte too as as we know.
It just panders to the xenophobes who hate foreigners. Do we really think French/Belgian/Dutch slaughterhouses are that much worse than ours?

Or do the animal rights brigade have objections to livestock going on a ferry?
Well I can’t comment on the ones you’ve mentioned but Turkish ones certainly are certainly a lot worse.... , I did see a Belgian one once and that was a bit grim
 
if he keeps going on people will switch off and stop listening to him and opinion will go the opposite way to what he is telling everyone

the news and media keep telling use against one thing but we still voted for it in the last election

eventually people realise that realism is the only way foreward

packam is just unrealistic in his views
farmed livestock are transportsed without hurting them better than many comuters in the rush hour
 

Pilatus

Member
Location
cotswolds
Hasn’t the live export been covered about ten years ago with big protests at ports etc?
Anyone remember?

Was some large protests down here in the mid 90s at Brightlingsea Essex that went on for several months IIRC.

Think this protest all stemmed from ferry operators at large ports banning live exports, so the exporters were forced to use small ports up creeks.
 

D14

Member
if he keeps going on people will switch off and stop listening to him and opinion will go the opposite way to what he is telling everyone

the news and media keep telling use against one thing but we still voted for it in the last election

eventually people realise that realism is the only way foreward

packam is just unrealistic in his views
farmed livestock are transportsed without hurting them better than many comuters in the rush hour

Yes we know packham is unrealistic in what he says. The problem is the 60 odd million people outside of agriculture don't as they are so far detached from where their food comes from, when somebody like CWIS pipes up they take it on board without actually listening properly. If CWIS said it then it must be correct as he's on the tele so must know what he's talking about.

You cannot educate people who effectively are not interested in food until its in front of them on the supermarket shelf on the the iPad screen for delivery.
 

slackjawedyokel

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Hasn’t the live export been covered about ten years ago with big protests at ports etc?
Anyone remember?

Anyone remember how the RSPCA made a lot of mileage in its campaign to stop live exports by releasing horrific images of dead sheep at Ramsgate a few years ago, when what actually happened was that RSPCA ordered a lorry to be unloaded despite facilities being poor, some sheep dropped into a storm drain and dozens of terrified animals were shot. RSPCA caused the horrific scenes, then photographed it and used it as propaganda against live exports. Beggars belief.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...t-dead-40-sheep-grisly-dockside-massacre.html
 

Hfd Cattle

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
Have just been on to NFU head office concerning the tweet off Packham.
Was told they were unaware of it but are getting on to it straightaway.
When I asked how straightaway I was told "well it will go to the 'media team' and they will decide whether to challenge it or not"
We wait and see !
 

D14

Member
Have just been on to NFU head office concerning the tweet off Packham.
Was told they were unaware of it but are getting on to it straightaway.
When I asked how straightaway I was told "well it will go to the 'media team' and they will decide whether to challenge it or not"
We wait and see !

The NFU won't do anything proper about this because they don't like getting into confrontation with people like packham.
 

Kevtherev

Member
Location
Welshpool Powys
Have just been on to NFU head office concerning the tweet off Packham.
Was told they were unaware of it but are getting on to it straightaway.
When I asked how straightaway I was told "well it will go to the 'media team' and they will decide whether to challenge it or not"
We wait and see !

How can they be unaware of it ?
They are on Twitter daily
 

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