Panorama

[Werzle]

Anyone for some spanish bull fighting?!

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Anyone for some spanish bull fighting?!

What does that taste like after being wound up like that

 

[Werzle]

What does that taste like after being wound up like that

Ok in mince!

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Looks like Speckle has gone to bye byes

 

[thorpe]

Well, that comment makes no sense at all. I'm presuming it's some sort of veiled insult, because you don't like the information I've provided. Which incidentally I had no intention of even getting into, but I don't like to see others posting misinformation unchallenged.


Thank you to those that have actually engaged honestly instead of taking out your temper about the program (which I had nothing to do with) and the issues it raises (which unfortunately you are going to have to deal with regardless) on me.

calm down, i wish people would quote all the facts and not cherry pick to suit there agenda. as in the whole soya and palm claims regaurding animal feeds . the program last night cherry picked worst cases not the norm!

 

[topground]

It appears our prolific new member who joined at 08.19 this morning has packed up gone home at 15.50 Probably working flexi time and left early to catch the tube. Likely is being paid to join a farming forum and see what can be stirred up.
He /she/they probably have enough copy for a Guardian article, another piece on the BBC or perhaps a report as a policy maker to DEFRA
Who knows but with the lack of depth of knowledge and understanding of food production whatever their purpose is it won’t be presented as a balanced view. Never mind these types can go to the supermarket to get their food who needs farmers?

 

[Pushdyke]

I watched last night as most folks on here probably did, can any one estimate the no of hour's or days of filming needed to make a programme like panorama.
I don't think everything shown on tv happens as it appears to do on these programs

 

[Derrick Hughes]

What happened to open farm Sunday , did COVID stop that

 

[melted welly]

It appears our prolific new member who joined at 08.19 this morning has packed up gone home at 15.50 Probably working flexi time and left early to catch the tube. Likely is being paid to join a farming forum and see what can be stirred up.
He /she/they probably have enough copy for a Guardian article, another piece on the BBC or perhaps a report as a policy maker to DEFRA
Who knows but with the lack of depth of knowledge and understanding of food production whatever their purpose is it won’t be presented as a balanced view. Never mind these types can go to the supermarket to get their food who needs farmers?

Probably works for oatly.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Good level headed response,
Better than some on here I'm sad to say

Dairy farmers slam BBC for 'sensationalist' Panorama show

Dairy farmers have criticised the BBC for last night's 'sensationalist' Panorama programme which questioned cow and calf welfare in the UK.

www.farminguk.com

 

[Christoph1945]

What happened to open farm Sunday , did COVID stop that

Will probably start up again, just in time
for foot&mouth, swine fever, bird flue, and T B restrictions!

 

[roscoe erf]

I feel a moderation coming on!!

Just kick the muppet out

 

[roscoe erf]

Don't waste your energy, I suspect they've left the building! All good for traffic!!

Why is it they all have the same posting style

 

[Mark Hatton]

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Why is it they all have the same posting style

they all have the same agenda, refuse to listen to anything unless it suits their narrative or can be ‘fact checked’ or has been written in a peer reviewed research paper.

 

[redsloe]

Didn't think that I'd be saying that I was glad to tb testing today, but fecking hell, what a spat you've all had. Its just a bit sad that I’ve spent 45mins reading it all!
Didn't expect to hear that spuds and carrots are going to save the planet. Can't wait to see them rip up the gorse on Bodmin Moor to feed the veggies. Won't need any irrigation.

 

[DaveGrohl]

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they all have the same agenda, refuse to listen to anything unless it suits their narrative or can be ‘fact checked’ or has been written in a peer reviewed research paper.

Lol to the peer review bit. Poore and Nemecek got past the peer review process unhindered.

 

[Jonp]

And here's another one.
More specifically relating to soy

Beef with tofu: is local beef better for the planet than tofu imports?

It might sound like eating beef from a nearby farm is not so bad for the environment, but the latest research has some revealing answers

www.newscientist.com

A kilogram of beef protein has the equivalent carbon emmisions as a passanger flying from London to new York and back.
Really? Doesn't sound plausible.
In the flight carbon emissions do they include emmisions from; building the plane, building the factories that made the plane, building the airports for the planes, not to mention the materials for the above?
Or is the passenger flight just fuel emmisions per flight(fuel) divided by number of passengers?

 

[melted welly]

A kilogram of beef protein has the equivalent carbon emmisions as a passanger flying from London to new York and back.
Really? Doesn't sound plausible.
In the flight carbon emissions do they include emmisions from; building the plane, building the factories that made the plane, building the airports for the planes, not to mention the materials for the above?
Or is the passenger flight just fuel emmisions per flight(fuel) divided by number of passengers?

You could keep going down that rabbit hole….

what’s the stats for how many trees are needed to offset a transatlantic flight?

Then there’s a formula in there somehow to show how many trees = 1 flight = 1kg beef……

I bet if someone could be arsed, it would be possible to cherry pick enough of the more fanciful anti-meat, pro-oil industry emission figures to justify offsetting meat consumption by flying to America.

 

[DaveGrohl]

A kilogram of beef protein has the equivalent carbon emmisions as a passanger flying from London to new York and back.
Really? Doesn't sound plausible.
In the flight carbon emissions do they include emmisions from; building the plane, building the factories that made the plane, building the airports for the planes, not to mention the materials for the above?
Or is the passenger flight just fuel emmisions per flight(fuel) divided by number of passengers?

Seriously, there’s nothing to see here. There’s no sound science behind these claims.

 

[R J]

BBC are quick to slander the UK dairy industry yet all to happy to air the Winter Olympics from a country that engages in large scale human rights abuses and modern day concentration camps,
Don't see Packham jetting off to China to expose them