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Towing 3500kg on a Navara which will give me the best miles per gallon?
Or should I look at Toyota or Isuzu?
Or should I look at Toyota or Isuzu?
Mpg is normally better on a manual but after driving an auto a while they are so much better than years ago next one I buy Will be autoTowing 3500kg on a Navara which will give me the best miles per gallon?
Or should I look at Toyota or Isuzu?
I worked out what my Isuzu did towing, 14ft Ifor + Ferguson T20 + Plough and 90kg of ballast from Pembrokeshire back to here 186 miles and managed 28mpg, mostly motorway work but was doing 65+ as the Mrs had been kicked by a horse so had to get back sharpish, so prob add anoter 5mph on.
Manual here but do find that 1st is too high towing when starting off on a hill, you can drop to low range and then change up but I gather the auto is better at pulling away on a slope loaded but not driven one myself.
Manually are generally better for MPG, hence why some auto's have a higher tax band, certainly the case with my old audi A3 manual, auto was more to tax a year.
On a Nissan, certainly the auto. You will lose some economy but its auto box is so much nicer than the manual and, while not quite class-leading, is up there with the best.
Personally I would not consider less than six gear ratios in a modern automatic, which rules out many brands of pickup. Ford is on the cusp of offering a ten speed automatic pickup in the UK. Half the ratios is not equal to half as good but only five speeds doesn't cut it when heavy towing. It really doesn't.
There are pickups with efficient and pleasant six, seven, eight and now ten speed automatics. Five is OK solo and will tow but there will be significant jumps between ratios.
Whether I would buy a current Nissan Navara is another question entirely. No I wouldn't, although there are pleny of happy owners around. I just don't like the cheap build with chassis that are still built specifically to fail sooner than they should. Holes stamped in the dirtiest of places almost certainly specifically to let salty and mucky shite inside the box sections to accelerate the rusting process. They haven't done much to stop the chassis breaking in future compared to ones built 10 years or so ago either. Just a channel section welded just in front of the rear wheels under the box sections either side as far as I can see.
No, and its my personal opinion and not definitive, that they are built down to the lowest possible price and quality and longevity just don't figure in Nissan's priority list when it comes to Navara. If you lease it or intend changing regularly, this is not a consideration for you, but if you are in it for the long term, I think there are better vehicles.
I have a 66 plate Navara Tekna with auto box. Really nice pickup but I feel it try's to change up to soon when towing a heavy load. Had a Touareg previously for towing and that was great for towing if in sport mode. Tend to use the box in manual mode if towing a big load.
I have just had updated rear springs for the Navara and it's improved towing ride no end. I believe newer Navara's than mine had it standard from the factory.
My 3.2 auto ranger rarely seems to not be pulling a trailer and manages 22mpg. Just shows bigger engine and more power doesn’t always mean worse fuel consumption.My Isuzu auto is the piddly 1.9 engine but averages 21mpg, constantly has a trailer on, performs just as well as my old 2.2 manual ranger that also did 21mpg average. Go for auto, manuals are crap
On a Nissan, certainly the auto. You will lose some economy but its auto box is so much nicer than the manual and, while not quite class-leading, is up there with the best.
Personally I would not consider less than six gear ratios in a modern automatic, which rules out many brands of pickup. Ford is on the cusp of offering a ten speed automatic pickup in the UK. Half the ratios is not equal to half as good but only five speeds doesn't cut it when heavy towing. It really doesn't.
There are pickups with efficient and pleasant six, seven, eight and now ten speed automatics. Five is OK solo and will tow but there will be significant jumps between ratios.
Whether I would buy a current Nissan Navara is another question entirely. No I wouldn't, although there are pleny of happy owners around. I just don't like the cheap build with chassis that are still built specifically to fail sooner than they should. Holes stamped in the dirtiest of places almost certainly specifically to let salty and mucky shite inside the box sections to accelerate the rusting process. They haven't done much to stop the chassis breaking in future compared to ones built 10 years or so ago either. Just a channel section welded just in front of the rear wheels under the box sections either side as far as I can see.
No, and its my personal opinion and not definitive, that they are built down to the lowest possible price and quality and longevity just don't figure in Nissan's priority list when it comes to Navara. If you lease it or intend changing regularly, this is not a consideration for you, but if you are in it for the long term, I think there are better vehicles.
On a Nissan, certainly the auto. You will lose some economy but its auto box is so much nicer than the manual and, while not quite class-leading, is up there with the best.
Personally I would not consider less than six gear ratios in a modern automatic, which rules out many brands of pickup. Ford is on the cusp of offering a ten speed automatic pickup in the UK. Half the ratios is not equal to half as good but only five speeds doesn't cut it when heavy towing. It really doesn't.
There are pickups with efficient and pleasant six, seven, eight and now ten speed automatics. Five is OK solo and will tow but there will be significant jumps between ratios.
Whether I would buy a current Nissan Navara is another question entirely. No I wouldn't, although there are pleny of happy owners around. I just don't like the cheap build with chassis that are still built specifically to fail sooner than they should. Holes stamped in the dirtiest of places almost certainly specifically to let salty and mucky shite inside the box sections to accelerate the rusting process. They haven't done much to stop the chassis breaking in future compared to ones built 10 years or so ago either. Just a channel section welded just in front of the rear wheels under the box sections either side as far as I can see.
No, and its my personal opinion and not definitive, that they are built down to the lowest possible price and quality and longevity just don't figure in Nissan's priority list when it comes to Navara. If you lease it or intend changing regularly, this is not a consideration for you, but if you are in it for the long term, I think there are better vehicles.