Planning Applications, PD and the like (General Chat)

[Cereal Killer]

Hi,

Any word on if / when we might see the proposed changes to PD become law? Specifically the increase in farm building size to 1500m2.

Thanks.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Hi,

Any word on if / when we might see the proposed changes to PD become law? Specifically the increase in farm building size to 1500m2.

Thanks.

Nothing at the moment, it was in consultation Q3 of 2023 I believe but there is no published timeline.

 

[onthehoof]

@George from SJM Planning
Can I put a lean to on the side of an existing building without planning, machinery only and less than 25%sq ft of original building

 

[George from SJM Planning]

@George from SJM Planning
Can I put a lean to on the side of an existing building without planning, machinery only and less than 25%sq ft of original building

No, only 10% can be added without Prior Notification - any larger would amount to a significant extension requiring PN.
10% cannot be added in an AONB or National Park.

 

[Cowski]

No, only 10% can be added without Prior Notification - any larger would amount to a significant extension requiring PN.
10% cannot be added in an AONB or National Park.

Does that apply to any size of building? Ie is there a maximum?

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Does that apply to any size of building? Ie is there a maximum?

You can't exceed the 1000sqm limit for the total building I don't believe.

 

[Kidds]

No, only 10% can be added without Prior Notification - any larger would amount to a significant extension requiring PN.
10% cannot be added in an AONB or National Park.

My yard I got permission for was 2 buildings and some hardstanding totalling 700m². Am I allowed to build a lean-to on one of the buildings of 70m² without asking as it is 10% of the original permission?
Is it a good argument as the area allowed had to have the hardstanding included?

 

[George from SJM Planning]

My yard I got permission for was 2 buildings and some hardstanding totalling 700m². Am I allowed to build a lean-to on one of the buildings of 70m² without asking as it is 10% of the original permission?
Is it a good argument as the area allowed had to have the hardstanding included?

Hard standing doesn't have a limit under Part 6 (too many councils do include it incorrectly). Nevertheless, the legislation says 10% of the building - so hardstanding wouldn't be included

 

[Skintagain]

Hard standing doesn't have a limit under Part 6 (too many councils do include it incorrectly). Nevertheless, the legislation says 10% of the building - so hardstanding wouldn't be included

Is it 10% per annum? Or 10% of an existing building and that’s it? Does this apply to all Agri buildings?

Thankyou

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Is it 10% per annum? Or 10% of an existing building and that’s it? Does this apply to all Agri buildings?

Thankyou

I would need to look into Part 6 Class D a bit more but I think it would be every couple of years. I'll make a note to check when I'm on the office tomorrow.

 

[Skintagain]

I would need to look into Part 6 Class D a bit more but I think it would be every couple of years. I'll make a note to check when I'm on the office tomorrow.

Thankyou

 

[George from SJM Planning]

“significant extension” or “significant alteration” means any extension or alteration, as the case may be, of the building where the cubic content of the original building would be exceeded by more than 10% or the height of the building as extended or altered would exceed the height of the original building;

As I read it you can continue to add 10% cumulatively to the building until you meet the 1000sqm limit in a 2 year period. So, I assume, as soon as you finish one 10% then you can start the next 10%. But as with all Class A developments you should notify the council within 7 days of completion so they are aware of the development.

 

[Skintagain]

“significant extension” or “significant alteration” means any extension or alteration, as the case may be, of the building where the cubic content of the original building would be exceeded by more than 10% or the height of the building as extended or altered would exceed the height of the original building;

As I read it you can continue to add 10% cumulatively to the building until you meet the 1000sqm limit in a 2 year period. So, I assume, as soon as you finish one 10% then you can start the next 10%. But as with all Class A developments you should notify the council within 7 days of completion so they are aware of the development.

Thankyou

I didn’t know you had to inform them you had completed a building either.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Thankyou

I didn’t know you had to inform them you had completed a building either.

Nobody reads that far in the legislation and the council don't follow up but it is clear in the GPDO that all development under Class A(a) requires the council to be informed within 7 days of completion.

This would be important for any date checking for starting a new phase.

 

[Skintagain]

Nobody reads that far in the legislation and the council don't follow up but it is clear in the GPDO that all development under Class A(a) requires the council to be informed within 7 days of completion.

This would be important for any date checking for starting a new phase.

I bet not many notify completion. But as you say it could be very important if you wanted to go again.

Thankyou for your help

 

[Still Farming]

France passes law to protect farmers against 'townie' complaints

On Tuesday (12 March), the French Senate approved a law protecting farmers against growing complaints from new rural residents about the nuisance caused by farm activities, such as the crowing of cockerels in the morning or the smell of manure.

www.euractiv.com

 

[Jam Tomorrow]

No, only 10% can be added without Prior Notification - any larger would amount to a significant extension requiring PN.
10% cannot be added in an AONB or National Park.

George , how about in Green Belt ?

 

[George from SJM Planning]

George , how about in Green Belt ?

Green Belt is fine

 

[Jam Tomorrow]

Green Belt is fine

Thank you

 

[Breckland Boy]

On a now expired minerals site , do all post extraction plannings conditions have to be met?
Locally a site has expired, conditions were due to be completed within six months.
No actual minerals were extracted and the lpa are seemingly happy with only some of the conditions being met.
Can the lpa be forced to act and enforce the conditions in full?
Tia