Plant based diet one answer to global warming ????????

Pilatus

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I heard on the news today that at a large important conference about global warming,they said that a plant based diet for humans would be one of the main ways to slow down global warming. Surely planes ,automobiles, trains , ships, trucks heat from industrial factories are creating more global warming than agricultural practices world wide. So why, oh why is agriculture being made look as if it is one of the worst causes of global warming on the planet ???
 

MF 168

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Laois, Ireland
Simple, the farmer is an individual. If the people who are braying like a stuck donkey went after the air industry for example that would affect millions of people worldwide and that would be a big no no. As for why agriculture is been singled out as the big polluter I don't know but I suspect we have our veg-an simpletons to thanks for that as their endless campaigns against animals have spun off into every direction thats Ag related. If all these nay sayers get their way we'll have no milk, no meat and very poor disease ridden crops as we'll also have no chemicals to control disease. It will cure the global warming though as 3/4 of the people will starve.
 

hendrebc

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Livestock Farmer
Cant be arsed to type out something else again but basically this. Money thats why.
Thats the only reason veganism is being pushed so hard. There is a lot of money to be made by selling vegan foods. From the tractors, machinery, seed, sprays and fertilizers it takes to grow the food to the processors and all the energy it takes to make this stuff edible and/or make it look like meat and carting it all over the world of course. Theres a hell of a lot more money to be made there than there is off a few farmers with a few cows. The only inputs you really need to grow beef or lamb is sunlight and rainwater everything else is optional if they are managed the right way (yes even in the wet muddy uk) you would only need a haulier to take them off farm and a slaughterhouse to turn it into meat. No further processing needed. Not much opportunity for any big companies to make money there is there...
Money is at the root of all of it. Why do you think no one will stop people flying all over the world? Because the airlines have a lot of money behind them. Cows and the people who look after them (ie us) dont have much money behind us so we are an easy target to make it look like the people in power are doing something about climate change while really they are making it worse. But the economy is doing fine and will do better when all these big corporates make more money so everything will be fine :rolleyes::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::rolleyes:
Even if you dont believe in climate change you cant really believe that we can keep damaging the enviroment, natural ecosystems, soils and water in the way we are now. Were all fudgeed if we do and if we dont stop fudgeing it all up pretty damn soon its going to be too late to get it all back. Just look how much rainforest we have lost in the last 20 years to grow soya and palm oil. You could even put the humble british hedgerow in the same category. A lot of them have been ripped up to make fields bigger for machinery. Were all guilty of it we are all to blame.
 

yellowbelly

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Livestock Farmer
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N.Lincs
So why, oh why is agriculture being made look as if it is one of the worst causes of global warming on the planet ???
I haven't heard every news bulletin on the wireless today, but of the ones I have, they've all said that agriculture is responsible for 25% of global warming (or words to that effect).

OK then, that's not great, but it means that 75% (the last time I was at school, that's 3 times as much) is down to other things. Not a feckin' mention about Joe Public flying here there and everywhere on his bloody holidays :banghead::banghead::banghead:
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
I haven't heard every news bulletin on the wireless today, but of the ones I have, they've all said that agriculture is responsible for 25% of global warming (or words to that effect).

OK then, that's not great, but it means that 75% (the last time I was at school, that's 3 times as much) is down to other things. Not a feckin' mention about Joe Public flying here there and everywhere on his bloody holidays :banghead::banghead::banghead:
Steady on old son they have to have the holls and the more the better
Food well thats just an option
 

yellowbelly

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Livestock Farmer
Location
N.Lincs
Food well thats just an option
Yeah, the one thing that everybody absolutely can't manage without is the thing they all put the least value on and don't give a monkey's where it comes from or how it's produced as long as it's cheap.
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Agrispeed

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Cornwall
Agriculture is probably responsible for 25% of emissions, that seems entirely reasonable. It also accounts for the biggest CO2 sink we have too, and by far the most successful (being more effective than forestry in most cases).

The problem is that no one seems tells the whole story, and people with agendas who write these reports (the list of who funds these reports is very interesting) conveniently forget about it.
 
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southwest
So, if the UK stopped or reduced beef and milk production, what would happen? Well, unless imports were banned (in which case it would be smuggled in like drugs are now) more rainforests would be felled to fill the gap. Or more people would drink almond milk (using intensively grown almonds from the US). Or perhaps more food would be "grown" using industrial processes relying on, guess what-carbon based fuels, of course! Far better all round if people changed to diets based on local (ie UK) food thats not trucked or flown thousands of miles.
 
I heard on the news today that at a large important conference about global warming,they said that a plant based diet for humans would be one of the main ways to slow down global warming. Surely planes ,automobiles, trains , ships, trucks heat from industrial factories are creating more global warming than agricultural practices world wide. So why, oh why is agriculture being made look as if it is one of the worst causes of global warming on the planet ???


About a decade ago Corporations & Billionaires bought large areas of Africa for a song .. areas the size of Belgium.

"Climate Change" is being used as a weapon to destroy Western Industry, farming is just another easy target to make easy money.

Happened to British Steel recently with David Cameron not even bothering to put tariffs on dumped Chinese Steel and Theresa May blaming EU Carbon Trading & EU Rules for not supporting the UK Steel industry.

IMHO this is all a smoke screen.

London wants lots of imports - as many imports as possible - so a small number of importers down London can make a cut on the deals. Cut out the middle man workers and just keep taking the money for themselves.

Don't believe me ?

Do you think George Soros or Jeff Bezos is supporting the UK tax payer ? They didn't get to be billionaires by being kind to people.


But don't worry, billionaires will soon be able to have "Space Tourism" .. which isn't even remotely damaging the Climate .. not.
 

Pilatus

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Perhaps many of those that write these reports on global warming are vegetarians or vegans,who very rarely visit the countryside of whichever country they live in, and so miss the point of why a livestock industry is neccessary to graze grassland ,whether that be permanent pasture, moorland pasture,up land pasture, alpine pasture etc, or grass leys to maintain soil structure.
 

hendrebc

Member
Livestock Farmer
About a decade ago Corporations & Billionaires bought large areas of Africa for a song .. areas the size of Belgium.

"Climate Change" is being used as a weapon to destroy Western Industry, farming is just another easy target to make easy money.

Happened to British Steel recently with David Cameron not even bothering to put tariffs on dumped Chinese Steel and Theresa May blaming EU Carbon Trading & EU Rules for not supporting the UK Steel industry.

IMHO this is all a smoke screen.

London wants lots of imports - as many imports as possible - so a small number of importers down London can make a cut on the deals. Cut out the middle man workers and just keep taking the money for themselves.

Don't believe me ?

Do you think George Soros or Jeff Bezos is supporting the UK tax payer ? They didn't get to be billionaires by being kind to people.


But don't worry, billionaires will soon be able to have "Space Tourism" .. which isn't even remotely damaging the Climate .. not.
Nail on the head.
If the government were serious about emissions they would ban N fertilisers.

Food production would drop,farmers would receive a better market price.

What’s not to like.......oh, hang on no cheap food.
If they were serious about it they would ban a lot of things. Cheap flights being the first obvious one. But they wouldnt dare do that imagine what would happen if no one was able to go on foreign holidays ever again :eek::eek::eek::sneaky:
 

Cowgirl

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Ayrshire
I haven't heard every news bulletin on the wireless today, but of the ones I have, they've all said that agriculture is responsible for 25% of global warming (or words to that effect).

OK then, that's not great, but it means that 75% (the last time I was at school, that's 3 times as much) is down to other things. Not a feckin' mention about Joe Public flying here there and everywhere on his bloody holidays :banghead::banghead::banghead:
I’ve read a lot of different figures - latest was 14.5%. Depends which country you’re talking about and what you include in your calculations.
 

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