mikep
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Wait until the agreement lapses then bang 100 units of fertiliser on and hey presto! No longer unimproved land
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Hard to argue against that, but I bet ne would try.Wait until the agreement lapses then bang 100 units of fertiliser on and hey presto! No longer unimproved land
If challenged though you have to admit to having improved the land without their consent hence though the deed is done you can still expect (for the next 2 years a Remediation Notice (similar to one above)/max £5k fine/cross compliance SFP breech penalty.)Wait until the agreement lapses then bang 100 units of fertiliser on and hey presto! No longer unimproved land
Surely once the agreement lapses you may apply fertiliser? Once lapsed it is sfa to do with them as the agreement was for 10 yrs not forever. If the rules have changed during the duration of the agreement it is not binding unless you have been offered a break.If challenged though you have to admit to having improved the land without their consent hence though the deed is done you can still expect (for the next 2 years a Remediation Notice (similar to one above)/max £5k fine/cross compliance SFP breech penalty.)
Sorry guys I wanted to rejuvenate this thread as my Remediation Appeal is currently "hotting up."
defra chap on a farm walk said there shouldn't be a problem ploughing up pp....presumably because the uk has so much that couldn't physically be ploughed that a 5% reduction is unlikely to be exceeded? if you are in stewardship though you're (well at least i'm) not allowed to plough up pp.
from ne view they may regard the payments under stewardship for reversion as an 'investment' in that land and so having paid for that transition from arable to pp may not be keen to see it ploughed up after the scheme finishes....my own speculation though
there is derogation for small areas though i think? is it 2ha you can plough without eia?
It's verging on criminal really, wonder what trading standards would make of it? Moving the goal posts partway through an agreement sucks bad enough, but saying that by being in a certain management scheme will mean you have to abide by the rules after it finishes is just plain wrong.This interests me. I had 3.50ha in countryside stewardship which finished two years ago after ten years. I was just told I can't do nothing with it and the best thing would be fence it in and rent it out for horses is this the case??? Father joined css when wheat was £60T and just left the meadow to naturally regenerate. It was cropped before that. I'm not saying I would put a crop in but maybe some wild bird mix or something visually nice as its near the road. But this would need a fresh start eg prepare a seed bed by ploughing. A bit of a grey area to me!!
Mine are going, have no intention of asking permission either, roundup, followed by another dose in spring.so they will not let me touch ccs ground but when my ELS finishes in December I can plough up 17 acres of field corners and 4 metre margins which have been in ten years. Is that the case....
I hope the barstewards get their wings clipped. Hard.stop press...... High Court Judicial Review Permission Hearing....Bristol Civil Justice Centre, 2 Redcliff Street. BS1 6GR ... Thurs. 15/10/2015.
case ref. CO2701/2015 COOPER verses (1.) THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR ENVIRONMENT FOOD AND RURAL AFFAIRS
(2.) NATURAL ENGLAND
Any outcome yet? This whole issue seems to be in dire need of a "class action" challenge, perhaps backed by the NFU or CAL as it is blighting land. If it hadn't been heard yet then good luck.I hope the barstewards get their wings clipped. Hard.
Any outcome yet? This whole issue seems to be in dire need of a "class action" challenge, perhaps backed by the NFU or CAL as it is blighting land. If it hadn't been heard yet then good luck.