Pond or lake construction

[Tropical]

You do not need a licence to abstract less than 20,000 litres a day that should fill your pond in a few days
Any you catch from the sky , is yours to do as you please with.
Think commercial fish pond of this size technically needs planning
As a non commercial pond , certain it would not, neither if it was to be used for agricultural irrigation.
If you can find clay it is far superior and cheaper than a plastic liner, but depending on your fish may have advantages and disadvantages.
Do not use a cheap plastic liner as you will regret it. Butyl is the way to gon but you must have a sand liner under the butyl else you will get puntures

I would be happy with 100ftx100ft pond

 

[Kidds]

Environment Agency website has details of pond building and rules iirc.

 

[Tropical]

During a thunderstorm it is common to get maybe inch and a half of rain in an hour or so. Maybe not common but it is likely to happen at some point.
This equates to 80,000 litres by my reckoning, 80 IBCs full. On a tunnel or glasshouse all of this is going to run off to somewhere (rather than soak in). You are going to need some kind of control measure to deal with this water, be it into a ditch, stream or your pond. It will top your pond though and not always good to dump that much into a pond in one go (as far as the fish are concerned).

ps. I have also built a pond bigger than you propose without PP and without consequence. Chance of making a rod for your own back don't forget as you will face prosecution if you ever filled it back in again and it will like as not become a haven for newts. Newts and future planning don't mix well.
You will get a heron at best and a cormorant or mink at worst, otters too perhaps.

So I guess if i wanted a solid bricks and mortar pond, I would need planning, it would be easier to manage, and in the winter i could easily cover it , also if i kept it , the walls 2 feet high, would be easier to manage, regards wildlife out there,

 

[GTB]

This is beginning to sound like one of those "I've just bought a four acre farm. I'm going to keep two cows fifty sheep, ten pigs and thirty chickens on it. Will this be ok?" Threads.

 

[Tropical]

This is beginning to sound like one of those "I've just bought a four acre farm. I'm going to keep two cows fifty sheep, ten pigs and thirty chickens on it. Will this be ok?" Threads.

LOL, ok, No but really I am use to councils here in London, but trying to get a feel what I will be having to put up with if and when I do move out to the country, seeing what development rights I have, and so on,

 

[Tropical]

This is beginning to sound like one of those "I've just bought a four acre farm. I'm going to keep two cows fifty sheep, ten pigs and thirty chickens on it. Will this be ok?" Threads.

Not sure about the sheep and chickens, but plants and fish, yes, yes,

 

[GTB]

Personally I would JFDI. Unlike @Forage Trader I've not had any big issues with the local council.

 

[Yale]

Don't forget rules on even modest lakes and dams have changed and could be upgraded into higher risk categories which can cost owners tens of thousands of pounds to upgrade or be forced to breach and drain.

This has already happened local to here.

 

[Derky]

We do quite a few. 2 options dig till you find clay then play with it till you get a lovely liner or membrane. http://www.geosynthetic.co.uk/ These folks are good but its dear.........................

 

[Tropical]

We do quite a few. 2 options dig till you find clay then play with it till you get a lovely liner or membrane. http://www.geosynthetic.co.uk/ These folks are good but its dear.........................

These are cool, but I am sure expensive, lol

 

[Exfarmer]

Definitely dp NOT go for bricks and mortar. A pond that size wll certainly move the ground when it is filled and your seal wll be lost. Been there and done that on a small garden pond

 

[Tropical]

Think I will stick to my little 10ft by 20ft pond with liner, LOL

 

[Philip Watkins]

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Think commercial fish pond of this size technically needs planning
As a non commercial pond , certain it would not, neither if it was to be used for agricultural irrigation.
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Would it need PP under "change of use"? People have been done for simply moving their garden fence further into farmland.

 

[Exfarmer]

I think the planners are far more likely to be upset about a polytunnel.much would depend on whether there are complaints from neighbours and whether anyone was aware it was a commercial operation

 

[manhill]

Can some one clarify this for me,
100ft x 100ft pond or lake construction , for fish. does this need planning?
Two methods are either a
1, water proof sheet. cheap, sheets can last 25 years, but easily punctured.
2, bricks and mortar. advantage solid, expensive

It is for rearing fish. and selling them .
But the thing is does it require planning?

Thanks

I won't be on your customer list to eat fish out of a stagnant pond if that's what you're selling them for.

 

[Tropical]

I won't be on your customer list to eat fish out of a stagnant pond if that's what you're selling them for.

Question really was about ponds, lakes planning required or not,,,
But don't you just love it when people do not pay attention to the question , and come on hear making assumptions, on matters they have no knowledge on???
Are you having a bad day so you thought you would come on hear and make assumptions on regards my business.
I have bread many fish and more than that I have farmed corals for the ornamental aquarium trade, which are far more difficult to grow and keep alive in marine sea water, in aquariums.
The picture you see is of a Acropora sp coral, just one of the coral species I have grown, besides
Hippocampus Reidi, (these are sea horses by the way).
Catalaphyllia jardeni
Zoanthus
Kenya tree
Blassotmussa
Acnas
These are just a few, to mention.

Thanks & Regards

 

[Dr. Alkathene]

Tha's never lived til tha's bred Bristol Shubunkins.

 

[Tropical]

Would it need PP under "change of use"? People have been done for simply moving their garden fence further into farmland.

Think a lot of times just depends on the individual person, are they the helpful type or just out to do you,

 

[Dry Rot]

To not answer your question (!), we decided to dig a duck flight pond here. The contractor had dug lots for the RSPB and assured us we wouldn't need a liner, in fact he'd never used one. Although the pond is actually on higher ground behind my house, he was absolutely right. It is a big pond, he didn't line it, and it has never been dry. I have photos somewhere.

We also needed to construct fish ponds in the Outer Hebrides and got out a specialist surveyor who had a lot of experience of digging lagoons in Africa. He said, out on the islands, we had the cheapest lining material as there was plenty of peat. He'd also used clay and on one site in Africa where it was all pure sand, I think he said they sealed it by spraying bitumen onto the sand.

Personally, I'd just dig a hole after our experiences with the duck pond. If it is below the water table, it will fill with water quick enough. Better still if there is a small stream or a few open ditches or drains that could be led into it.

 

[manhill]

Question really was about ponds, lakes planning required or not,,,
But don't you just love it when people do not pay attention to the question , and come on hear making assumptions, on matters they have no knowledge on???
Are you having a bad day so you thought you would come on hear and make assumptions on regards my business.
I have bread many fish and more than that I have farmed corals for the ornamental aquarium trade, which are far more difficult to grow and keep alive in marine sea water, in aquariums.
The picture you see is of a Acropora sp coral, just one of the coral species I have grown, besides
Hippocampus Reidi, (these are sea horses by the way).
Catalaphyllia jardeni
Zoanthus
Kenya tree
Blassotmussa
Acnas
These are just a few, to mention.

Thanks & Regards

Deserved that. Have a phobia about fish in ponds, worse on a bad day. Sorry