Prince Andrew

lim x

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Livestock Farmer
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Nottinghamshire
Just by continuing to socialise with Epstein after he had been found guilty of Previous offences shows him to be conceited ignorant pig, bringing shame to the Queen and his daughters, deserves everything he gets.
No matter if the girl was a glorified prostitute, he should have known better to have associated with her or classed Epstein/Maxwell as friends.
Thick f***er!
 

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
The best thing about this whole sordid business is Guillfre’s legal team asking Windsor’s legal team to disclose whether Windsor was in receipt of a gift from Epstein/Maxwell “That includes - but not limited to - a latex glove puppet”
 

stewart

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Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
They are exactly the same as you or I.

If you are doing something you shouldn't, prepare for the consequences down the line.
FFS this is a farming forum, anyone with a basic understanding of livestock should realise there is a difference between the sexes, on every level, physically, emotionally and hormonally. They are not the same at all. Vive la difference!
I do agree that if you are doing something you shouldn't there should be consequences, unfortunately there are a great number of the fairer sex doing something they were willing to do and then changing their mind several years down the track and even changing what actually happened, the me to movement is a prime example of this.
 

bluegreen

Member
Given that Her Majesty has taken Andrews titles back, and that he is now just a "civiliian", I suspect the Palace knows whats coming in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial's forthcoming naming and shaming session. Im curious as to whom the other seven names of the eight might be?

Once again we are reminded that The Queen is in a league of One when it comes to conduct and integrity in the world's corridor's of power. Throwing a formerly favourite son under the bus in the name of duty must have been an incredibly difficult task to do. I for one, and Im sure many other British people, hold her in the highest regard, lets pray she's with us for a good few more years yet.
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
But she is sueing in the US where laws are different and age of consent in New York may be 18
I think that New York raised the age of consent from 14 up to 17 in 2017, but am happy to be corrected if that's wrong.

I'll admit I haven't paid a great deal of attention to this case, I am under the impression that the alleged offence took place in London, where consent kicks in at 16.
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
This is interesting. None of us can say for certain that he did indeed assault a young girl as has been alleged; but we do all now know with absolute certainty that he is a receipted liar, and that he isn't very bright.

If he ends up in Court in the US, I think it almost a given that he will take advantage of the 5th Amendment, which would in and of itself be a quite indicative thing.

On the evidence already in the public domain I don't think he he'll have a chance in Hell in any Civil cases; but I don't know that it would secure a Criminal conviction...
I am trying to remember what Michael Portillo said yesterday on GB News, something like "every one is presumed innocent until proven guilty, however Andrew is guilty of terrible judgement, when he went to stay in NY with Epstein after he was released from prison", for that alone Andrew has been condemned in the court of public opinion.

I think that is probably because he is not only not very bright, but makes up for his lack of brains by being enormously entitled.
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
Having read quite a few books on various rock stars such as led zeppelin,rolling stones,etc I wonder if this new found morality of the general public is going to mean a banning of their music. They make Prince(no longer) look like a saint!
John Peel was a hero of the left, for his music shows late in the evening, however, he married a 15 year old in the US who subsequently killed herself. Now to me, that sounds dodgy, marrying a girl of 15!
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
John Peel was a hero of the left, for his music shows late in the evening, however, he married a 15 year old in the US who subsequently killed herself. Now to me, that sounds dodgy, marrying a girl of 15!
and the press has still not allowed Michael Jacksons halo to slip even after paying a huge sum to the families of several children to drop cases against him. And these children were not 17 nearly 10 years younger!
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
John Peel was a hero of the left, for his music shows late in the evening, however, he married a 15 year old in the US who subsequently killed herself. Now to me, that sounds dodgy, marrying a girl of 15!
Hero of the left? I read his book and whilst he was in his early twenties there really wasn’t anything dodgy other than they weren’t suited and should never have married. When I worked in the States especially in the South I met plenty of teenagers married with a couple of kids it was just how it was or is. As for Prince Andrew he was set up probably by Epstein and Maxwell but now the batons been passed to Guilfre. Maxwell and Epstein just needed the connections and influence as they had money the woman wants cash. Obviously he probably should have just come out and said ‘I slept with her so what how was I to know she was being moved around against her will? ‘
But no one ever questions people like him they think they can do want they want because most of the time people let them. Perhaps if his parents had brought him up better this wouldn’t have happened.
 

pgk

Member
I think that New York raised the age of consent from 14 up to 17 in 2017, but am happy to be corrected if that's wrong.

I'll admit I haven't paid a great deal of attention to this case, I am under the impression that the alleged offence took place in London, where consent kicks in at 16.
Is the issue more to do with the trafficking in which case the law where the offence took place is irrelevant, it is the law of the state from which they were trafficked which is in point.
 

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