Puma 220 CVX or JD 215 auto power which is best

[Salopian_Will]

CNH have the feature because when all other manufacturers fit brakes fit for purpose, CNH have a single disc made from monkey metal that wears out faster than a politicians promise

Pressing the "anti jackknife" feature stops the CNH brakes disintegrating daily

Other manufacturers just set the trailer brake valve to come on at a lower pressure than the tractor ones for the same result

They are dual brakes now and have been for some time. The anti jack knife feature is very good.

 

[Salopian_Will]

Don't run any CNH: The cab layout and controls drives me nuts for a start......

Why put the PTO switch where you accidentally knock it adjusting lift arm height? Why fit electric spool switches that are so stiff they need moved with a hammer and chisel? Why design a blister pad of identical toggle switches that needs you to look at the thing to find the correct tiny little button to engage 4wd when you're actively getting stuck in the mud?

Why design a joystick that needs moved further than a gypsy moonlight flit before he does anything? Why also have identical buttons for speed change and direction change, and put them next to each other? So instead of slowing down, you fire off backwards at 1000mph??

Why does the front windscreen wiper need to clear such a tiny bit of the screen? Why put the heater controls where you need visit a chiropractor after every time you twist round far enough to reach the buggers?

Why have the the armrest position adjustable between uncomfortable or downright torture? Why have the steering wheel adjustment so it's every so slightly too far away, or just close enough that the bolts on the (owner added) suicide knob tear big enough chunks of skin from your knees that you need stitches?

Why, oh why, and on what planet, did anybody think it a good idea to have a shuttle lever that sits in the neutral position for both forward and reverse, and needs a button pressed to stop it moving????

Why fit front suspension that only absorbs any bumps when there's an extra 27 tonnes of front ballast added? Especially when your back is in spasm after slipping on the tiny uneven spaced cabin steps you've to climb your way up when getting into the thing?

Why can't they fit a grease nipple to the propshaft bearing that they know fails spectacularly at high speed, unless they want to retain the Olympic pole vaulting record when the front of the prop falls off and digs into the tarmac at 50kph?

Why fit a Vario gearbox THAT LOCKS UP downhill when laden? Next door neighbours t7.210 got very exciting several times with a dump trailer, the skidmarks in the field were nearly as big as the ones on the seat.

The ludicrously under sized brakes, awful lift arm geometry, enormous angle changes PTO shafts have to endure, and tiny external oil capacity are the least of the problems with them!!!!

So, to reiterate, I don't run any CNH tractors. However, those few "small grumbles" aside, the engines do get a good write up ......

Don't run any CNH: The cab layout and controls drives me nuts for a start......

Why put the PTO switch where you accidentally knock it adjusting lift arm height? Why fit electric spool switches that are so stiff they need moved with a hammer and chisel? Why design a blister pad of identical toggle switches that needs you to look at the thing to find the correct tiny little button to engage 4wd when you're actively getting stuck in the mud?

Why design a joystick that needs moved further than a gypsy moonlight flit before he does anything? Why also have identical buttons for speed change and direction change, and put them next to each other? So instead of slowing down, you fire off backwards at 1000mph??

Why does the front windscreen wiper need to clear such a tiny bit of the screen? Why put the heater controls where you need visit a chiropractor after every time you twist round far enough to reach the buggers?

Why have the the armrest position adjustable between uncomfortable or downright torture? Why have the steering wheel adjustment so it's every so slightly too far away, or just close enough that the bolts on the (owner added) suicide knob tear big enough chunks of skin from your knees that you need stitches?

Why, oh why, and on what planet, did anybody think it a good idea to have a shuttle lever that sits in the neutral position for both forward and reverse, and needs a button pressed to stop it moving????

Why fit front suspension that only absorbs any bumps when there's an extra 27 tonnes of front ballast added? Especially when your back is in spasm after slipping on the tiny uneven spaced cabin steps you've to climb your way up when getting into the thing?

Why can't they fit a grease nipple to the propshaft bearing that they know fails spectacularly at high speed, unless they want to retain the Olympic pole vaulting record when the front of the prop falls off and digs into the tarmac at 50kph?

Why fit a Vario gearbox THAT LOCKS UP downhill when laden? Next door neighbours t7.210 got very exciting several times with a dump trailer, the skidmarks in the field were nearly as big as the ones on the seat.

The ludicrously under sized brakes, awful lift arm geometry, enormous angle changes PTO shafts have to endure, and tiny external oil capacity are the least of the problems with them!!!!

So, to reiterate, I don't run any CNH tractors. However, those few "small grumbles" aside, the engines do get a good write up ......

We’ve got 3 ‘new ish’ ones at the moment (newest 2020, oldest 2012). Never given much consideration to much of the above save for the windscreen wiper. New ones are horizontal mounted.

suspension on the newest is excellent. 2012 one is only ok but I think the accumulator needs attention. Lift capacity and geometry has always been a strong point imo.

Were by no means high hour heroes but they’ve not (touch wood) let us down on what is not an insignificant workload either doing heavy draught work or moving 18t trailers. Big fan of the autocommand set up.

 

[Chae1]

Don't run any CNH: The cab layout and controls drives me nuts for a start......

Why put the PTO switch where you accidentally knock it adjusting lift arm height? Why fit electric spool switches that are so stiff they need moved with a hammer and chisel? Why design a blister pad of identical toggle switches that needs you to look at the thing to find the correct tiny little button to engage 4wd when you're actively getting stuck in the mud?

Why design a joystick that needs moved further than a gypsy moonlight flit before he does anything? Why also have identical buttons for speed change and direction change, and put them next to each other? So instead of slowing down, you fire off backwards at 1000mph??

Why does the front windscreen wiper need to clear such a tiny bit of the screen? Why put the heater controls where you need visit a chiropractor after every time you twist round far enough to reach the buggers?

Why have the the armrest position adjustable between uncomfortable or downright torture? Why have the steering wheel adjustment so it's every so slightly too far away, or just close enough that the bolts on the (owner added) suicide knob tear big enough chunks of skin from your knees that you need stitches?

Why, oh why, and on what planet, did anybody think it a good idea to have a shuttle lever that sits in the neutral position for both forward and reverse, and needs a button pressed to stop it moving????

Why fit front suspension that only absorbs any bumps when there's an extra 27 tonnes of front ballast added? Especially when your back is in spasm after slipping on the tiny uneven spaced cabin steps you've to climb your way up when getting into the thing?

Why can't they fit a grease nipple to the propshaft bearing that they know fails spectacularly at high speed, unless they want to retain the Olympic pole vaulting record when the front of the prop falls off and digs into the tarmac at 50kph?

Why fit a Vario gearbox THAT LOCKS UP downhill when laden? Next door neighbours t7.210 got very exciting several times with a dump trailer, the skidmarks in the field were nearly as big as the ones on the seat.

The ludicrously under sized brakes, awful lift arm geometry, enormous angle changes PTO shafts have to endure, and tiny external oil capacity are the least of the problems with them!!!!

So, to reiterate, I don't run any CNH tractors. However, those few "small grumbles" aside, the engines do get a good write up ......

Can't say I can disagree with much of that. I'm not enjoying driving it at the moment. Not sure if something wrong with suspension but it's terrible. Guy on self propelled chopper said suspension on my tractor was the worst by some measure. I was the only 1 who's head was bouncing off the roof in rough fields.

There's allegedly a new cab going on lwb t7s being released in January and a 300hp lwb t7. Not HD. To compete with 828 and 6250r.

It will be same cab as t7 HDs.

Don't think I'll buy another. Life's too short to spend a large part of it driving something you don't really like.

I still think the brakes are alright and wouldn't class them as being a issue.

I've had mine turn into a sledge a couple of times on wet grass with fert spinner on. If it was a trailed implement behind I might not be here!

 

[Drillman]

Can't say I can disagree with much of that. I'm not enjoying driving it at the moment. Not sure if something wrong with suspension but it's terrible. Guy on self propelled chopper said suspension on my tractor was the worst by some measure. I was the only 1 who's head was bouncing off the roof in rough fields.

There's allegedly a new cab going on lwb t7s being released in January and a 300hp lwb t7. Not HD. To compete with 828 and 6250r.

It will be same cab as t7 HDs.

Don't think I'll buy another. Life's too short to spend a large part of it driving something you don't really like.

I still think the brakes are alright and wouldn't class them as being a issue.

I've had mine turn into a sledge a couple of times on wet grass with fert spinner on. If it was a trailed implement behind I might not be here!

Lock out valve on our front suspension broke a wire recently, effectively disabling it. I was getting sick of poor ride so got dealer to have a look. Much better since they fixed it

 

[Chae1]

Lock out valve on our front suspension broke a wire recently, effectively disabling it. I was getting sick of poor ride so got dealer to have a look. Much better since they fixed it

Did you get any error codes?

A solenoid for front suspension went on our previous t7050 but got error codes when it failed.

What transmission mode do you run yours in for fieldwork? The one with 3 lights on armrest. The bloody thing was near throwing me out seat changing direction when sowing today.

 

[Blue.]

Can't say I can disagree with much of that. I'm not enjoying driving it at the moment. Not sure if something wrong with suspension but it's terrible. Guy on self propelled chopper said suspension on my tractor was the worst by some measure. I was the only 1 who's head was bouncing off the roof in rough fields.

There's allegedly a new cab going on lwb t7s being released in January and a 300hp lwb t7. Not HD. To compete with 828 and 6250r.

It will be same cab as t7 HDs.

Don't think I'll buy another. Life's too short to spend a large part of it driving something you don't really like.

I still think the brakes are alright and wouldn't class them as being a issue.

I've had mine turn into a sledge a couple of times on wet grass with fert spinner on. If it was a trailed implement behind I might not be here!

Have you switched the front suspension off to see if actually working?

Suspension is every bit as good as any other brand,with exception of a fastcrap.

 

[Chae1]

Have you switched the front suspension off to see if actually working?

Suspension is every bit as good as any other brand,with exception of a fastcrap.

It's not sitting down on stops, so I presume it's working.

 

[Blue.]

It's not sitting down on stops, so I presume it's working.

Accumulator could be out of gas.

 

[Chae1]

Accumulator could be out of gas.

I'll get them to look at it. The guy on choppers also a experienced mechanic. He thought something must be amiss. As all other tractors on trailers were new hollands too.

 

[Blue.]

I'll get them to look at it. The guy on choppers also a experienced mechanic. He thought something must be amiss. As all other tractors on trailers were new hollands too.

Have you tried changing the mode ?

 

[Drillman]

Did you get any error codes?

A solenoid for front suspension went on our previous t7050 but got error codes when it failed.

What transmission mode do you run yours in for fieldwork? The one with 3 lights on armrest. The bloody thing was near throwing me out seat changing direction when sowing today.

No error codes but when dealer plugged it in it came up with a long list all the same.

i run with 1 light on roadwork and 3 for draft work or round baling

 

[damo810]

Currently got a New Holland Autocommand but looking at a John Deere 155R Autopower - older style armrest (non command pro version) and one thing I like about the CNH Autocommand is the "anti jacknife " feauture where you hold down the button, push the brake peddle so it only activates the trailer brakes to slow it down on hills.
Does the JD Autopower have something similar? Not really had much experience driving them.
Because from memory CNH is the only vario that has something like this. Never understood why, because from experience it's a very useful feature.

Yeah Deere Autopowrs on the commandpro have similar functions, dont think its on the old type commandarm though

 

[Chae1]

Have you tried changing the mode ?

Don't think mine has modes. It's 2017. Think the suspension modes just came out about then.

 

[Blue.]

Don't think mine has modes. It's 2017. Think the suspension modes just came out about then.

Has it the suspension button on the armrest?
If so press and hold it,the modes should change.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Can't say I can disagree with much of that. I'm not enjoying driving it at the moment. Not sure if something wrong with suspension but it's terrible. Guy on self propelled chopper said suspension on my tractor was the worst by some measure. I was the only 1 who's head was bouncing off the roof in rough fields.

There's allegedly a new cab going on lwb t7s being released in January and a 300hp lwb t7. Not HD. To compete with 828 and 6250r.

It will be same cab as t7 HDs.

Don't think I'll buy another. Life's too short to spend a large part of it driving something you don't really like.

I still think the brakes are alright and wouldn't class them as being a issue.

I've had mine turn into a sledge a couple of times on wet grass with fert spinner on. If it was a trailed implement behind I might not be here!

So what colour would u like to be having next?

 

[Chae1]

So what colour would u like to be having next?

Probably green. Not in any rush to shift it the way things are in farming and manufacturing at the moment.

 

[KB6930]

Probably green. Not in any rush to shift it the way things are in farming and manufacturing at the moment.

A 6250 R definitely the right choice

 

[daveydiesel1]

A 6250 R definitely the right choice

Na a 724 would be the jpb

 

[KB6930]

Na a 724 would be the jpb

I've had 1 on demo they're dead as a dodo compared to Deere

 

[Blue.]

Na a 724 would be the jpb

Overrated and overpriced.

I've had 1 on demo they're dead as a dodo compared to Deere

I sold my 2020 724 in April,they’ve ruined them,only good thing it sold fast.