I know, seen the forecast . may have to invest in piscine ...You’ll need plenty of lights and work at night.
Brief respite at the mo, turning hot again from Thursday
I know, seen the forecast . may have to invest in piscine ...You’ll need plenty of lights and work at night.
Brief respite at the mo, turning hot again from Thursday
Birmingham very close to it as wellMore Lockdowns up North
Innovation and then Lamma be in peril again is it??Birmingham very close to it as well
You’d be mad to go anyway in my opinionInnovation and then Lamma be in peril again is it??
Birmingham is the MidlandsBirmingham very close to it as well
Yes I know that. It was a reply to still farming saying, more lockdown up north .Birmingham is the Midlands
You’d be mad to go anyway in my opinion
North from us???Yes I know that. It was a reply to still farming saying, more lockdown up north .
Happening at pubs the length and breadth of the country, an awful lot of people either complacent or ignoring the rules , it’s not just pubs in fairness.I happened to drive through a suburb of Leeds today , folk were queuing outside a Wetherspoons to get in , you can’t educate stupid .
Happening at pubs the length and breadth of the country, an awful lot of people either complacent or ignoring the rules , it’s not just pubs in fairness.
According to my logic cases of CV ought to be soaring but they’re not, last estimates I saw on infection were that approx 3.6 million have had CV so we’re nowhere near herd immunity yet,
I know levels of movement and more to the point large gatherings are nowhere near pre covid levels but then again we’re a long way on from lockdown too. Judging by what I’m seeing I’d have expected infection rates to be rising.
CV death rate is currently fairly low, it hasn’t taken out all the old people nor all the vulnerable, I know several and they’re all live and well.But infection rates are rising?! But it is all very local (need to define local - in March local was UK - in August local is by town/city - or even council electorate wards within towns / individual factories) And thus it will become a problem locally - or nationally if these 'local' increases spread or become more widespread across the country.
And then the complication of 'so what'. If the infections and rising infection rates are not leading to hospitalisations, stretching hospitals and preventing the urgent other work of hospitals does it matter - of course I have ignored deaths. If death rate rises then is that an urgent issue. In March/June every CV19 death was considered a national disaster - even if the poor person who dies was 94. As a society we have to decide if preventing all deaths by CV19 is imperative. If so then lcokdown for ever. If it is just another disease then no. The Teachers may have a say in this. And the old folks.
Fascinating.
Government decision. By insisting the schools open we can see the direction of travel - I think. Until pictures of old folks dieing and folk stacked up in hospitals on venitlators t- then government will panic into lockdowns.
As a society we have to decide if preventing all deaths by CV19 is imperative. If so then lcokdown for ever.
Until pictures of old folks dieing and folk stacked up in hospitals on venitlators t- then government will panic into lockdowns.
According to my logic cases of CV ought to be soaring
No, in that case lockdown will be until we get a vaccine, the virus becomes less nasty and we find humans have resistance or the virus burns itself through enough of the population that the transmission rate drops and it effectively burns itself out (aka herd immunity).
Interesting choice of words. Reactive local lockdowns suggest panic to you? To me they suggest we are getting a better level of monitoring and are starting to be able to react faster and more emphatically. Is it a panic every time you touch the middle pedal in a manual gearbox car?
When lockdown first came in it was fairly well respected, essential travel and essential workers only, the roads were unbelievably quiet but even with that level of people movement it took a long time for the number of deaths and infections to drop, certainly a lot longer than the 14 days the govt recommend to quarantine for.What's the basis for your transmission model ("logic")? If it was only just spreading in the past (R was above unity but not hugely so - around 3 at worst I think), and we now have far less frequent and populous social interactions with each other, then it stands to reason that R will be less than it was. The epidemiologists reckon pretty close to unity now, but if your model (logic) suggests much higher if you believe case should be soaring and they're not, then maybe the problem is with it?
When lockdown first came in it was fairly well respected, essential travel and essential workers only, the roads were unbelievably quiet but even with that level of people movement it took a long time for the number of deaths and infections to drop, certainly a lot longer than the 14 days the govt recommend to quarantine for.
It was several weeks before lockdown started to break down, with mass gatherings, BLM protests and a couple of large raves in Manchester at which point the death rate was still fairly high, i and many others expected a spike but we haven’t seen one.
Since then lockdown has ended, many buisnesses that were shut down are back up and running, the roads are pretty much back to normal, and with the pubs open social distancing is far from being observed by many, there were some mass fights in our local town when the pubs re opened caused it would seem by many from a Welsh town who’s pubs hadn’t re opened at that point plus there’s plenty of photos on Facebook of groups of friends out for the night all huddled together. Not that I’ve been to the pub to see for myself but I live close enough to see what’s going on and I have plenty of experience to know that alcohol lowers inhibitions.
Yet despite a lot more people contact the figures keep on dropping, that’s a good thing obviously but not what I’d have expected.